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This Is Why Home Inspectors Are Not "Required" To Remove Electric Panel Box Covers

This is why home inspectors are not "required" to remove electric panel box covers.

Because sometimes we can't!  It's nice when we can.  There is usually a lot to see!

Can  you see the electric panel box?

The yellow arrow is pointing toward it.

About fifteen feet of stuff had to be removed to get to it.

Some of the "stuff" was in boxes with china and delicate belongings.

Every now and then this home inspector will move things in order to see something.

But in this case there was too much to move, and we were afraid of breaking something.

The house was being sold by two older women who had been in the house since it was built in the 70s. 

They had accumulated a few things along the way!

In this case it just wasn't possible to get into the panel box.  And the report so indicated.

It wasn't possible to see into the master closet either, much less get to it.  I'm not sure there were doors there!

And two bedrooms were so full they could not be investigated.  At one I had a hard time even opening the door all the way, having to take a photograph by reaching the camera inside.

We could not find the water main at all.

In this style house it would have been in the furnace room or under the entry stairs.  The closet leading to that area under the stairs is on the right.

That's correct - we never found the water main.  The report simply indicated that it was not found.  And the seller had no idea where it was.

My recommendation:  listing agents are supposed to know that houses have to be made ready for a home inspection.  Perhaps, sometimes, that is easier said than done.  It was certainly the case in this house.  Even though the house was a filthy mess this home inspector still politely removed his shoes and left them at the front door, performing the inspection in his socks.  The seller noticed that and actually thanked him!  A Scout is courteous.

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 25 commentsJay Markanich • November 11 2017 08:49AM

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Wow. That would have been a difficult inspection to do! 

And you are a very good Scout, taking off your shoes anyway!

Posted by Kat Palmiotti, The House Kat (Grand Lux Realty, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com) 6 months ago

My goodness Jay.

I've seen my share of cluttered homes, but this one is something else.  

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty AR LLC) 6 months ago

Taking shoes off is a must; however it is often a good idea to carry a couple of additional slip on pairs in vehicle to wear inside as there are times you should not be simply going around in socks - indoor shoes are generally okay.  It is also good to have additional shoes for crawlspace area as well as coverall clothing for those dirty areas.  Am sure you may have thought of these already though.

Posted by Robin Wells, Giving Peace Of Mind One Chimney At A Time ( RAW Chimney Sweep and Inspections) 6 months ago

Jay Markanich It is no wonder that homes catch fire if by no other way than spontaneous combustion.

Posted by Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI, Presence, Persistence & Perseverance (Realty One Group) 6 months ago

Oh, my Jay. I see a lot of messes, but that might be a record. Oy vey!

Posted by Mike Cooper, Your Winchester, VA Real Estate Sales Pro (Cornerstone Business Group Inc) 6 months ago

We try to be polite, Kat!  I have shoes that can be easily taken off because when I go into Asian houses they always want them removed.

James - I had a post a few years ago about a hoarding situation and that was incredible.  Plus, that house had millions of roaches and Black Widow spiders!

Thanks Robin.  I could bring my bunny puff puffs from home.  Those slip on booties are too small for my size 14 feet!  I NEVER go into crawl spaces without special shoes.  See my post from a couple of days ago about the "stinky" church.

S&N - some spontaneous all sorts of stuff is just around the corner at that place!

Mike - a few years ago Prince William County hired me to find a reason to get people evicted from a house because they were milking the system.  They were big-time hoarders, which wasn't sufficient reason.  In the house I found that they had 6 children there the county didn't know about, they were raising pigeons, and the house was FULL of roaches and Black Widow spiders!  Evicted!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

Your recommendation is spot on and too often people who are getting ready to move load up the garage and that includes lack of access to the hot water tank or the stairs to the attic.

Posted by Joe Pryor, REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties (The Virtual Real Estate Team) 6 months ago

Thanks Joe.  And I've seen that loaded up garage many, many times!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

Jay- you are not just courteous but honest and very good at what you do. 

Posted by Kathy Streib, Home Stager - Palm Beach County,FL -561-914-6224 (Room Service Home Staging) 6 months ago

Kathy - ¡gracias hermana!  This was a pretty difficult inspection all in all.  But there was a whole lot I could not see!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

I think if you would have gotten a good running start and dove, you might have made it back there! So the listing agent didn't tell their clients... "You guys should do a little de-cluttering"? Hmmmm...

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) 6 months ago

Fred - the running start would have only been about 4', so I doubt I'd have made it!  And the listing agent was somebody I, um, wouldn't hire.  You can see some of the why.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

I think I saw that house on Hoarders once.

Posted by Stephen Weakley (Nationwide Mortgage Services) 6 months ago

I've seen much worse, but this one ranked, Stephen.  See my comment +6.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

Thanks, Jay, for sharing your experience and your photographs.

Posted by Roy Kelley, Roy and Dolores Kelley Photographs (Realty Group Referrals) 6 months ago

Thanks Roy.  Glad you stopped by.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

Sometimes you can tell Sellers things until you are BLUE.....and they will do what they do...it's amazing they got an offer !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce - Short Sale (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) 6 months ago

And my client backed off the purchase, S&D, and moved on.  I have another scheduled with him today!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

David reporting from the lower level rec room TV said..."Oh Boy...Jay is not happy" as he watched the game...we join your misery this year !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce - Short Sale (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) 6 months ago

S&D - the second week of the season I got so fed up with the idiocy of the trashing of our flag that I stopped watching football and have not seen a single game.  I haven't even followed the standings.  My youngest is on his 6th trip to Afghanistan right now (2 to Iraq prior to that) and we are proud of our flag and what it stands for. 

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 6 months ago

Good morning Jay. You are a scout and a special one too. Too bad that there was so much stuff. I hope the buyers are prepared to deal with whatever comes.

Posted by Sheila Anderson, The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133 (Referral Group Incorporated) 4 months ago

Yicks...yes ...listing agents are "supposed to " do lots of thing but many do not at the risk of annoying the Sellers...to their own detriment !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce - Short Sale (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) 4 months ago

Thank you Sheila.  It's not part of the Scout Law, but a scout is gracious too.

S&D - this house was amazing!  And there was lots to report on, as you well imagine.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 4 months ago

Good morning Jay - what a mess.  I don't know how I would feel if I were a potential buyer.  I am sure lots of things need to be replaced based on that mess.

Posted by Grant Schneider, Your Coach Helping You Create Successful Outcomes (Performance Development Strategies) 4 months ago

The report was quite long, Grant!  And my buyers backed out. 

Glad you saw this one the second time around!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 4 months ago

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