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When Staircases Are Lemons

When staircases are lemons.

From my Oxford Dictionary of English -

Lemon - informal - an unsatisfactory or feeble person or thing.

In this 21 year old townhouse, three levels, when walking up and down the staircases, all of them, that is ALL OF THEM, bounced, sagged, squeaked and felt unstable.  Some bouncing was dramatic!

The only place I could see the structural components was in the small crawl space under the lowest staircase.

And it was revealing!

It was apparent that many repairs had been done over the years to try to correct this issue.

You can see from the red arrows:

-->  Separations, shown on the left.

-->  Drywall screws used to "shore things up."  Drywall screws are not strong enough for this application.

-->  Nails used to "correct" bouncing and sagging.  As I said, some of the bouncing was very pronounced.

Of course nothing has worked.

My client, an investor who trusts me, and the agent who has referred me for many years, both saw what I was referring to.

The house was being sold "as is."  Usually that means the seller knows of things that there is unwillingness to repair.  This issue alone was enough to turn the investor off.  He is not interested in inheriting a potential risk.  In my opinion, and his, this problem is dangerous.

What did he imagine?  A heavy tenant, adding to his weight by carrying something heavy up the stairs, and having one or two collapse under him.  How fun! 

What a phone call that would be, to the property manager or to my client, the homeowner.

Do we have a big, balloon, liability insurance policy?

And both the Realtor and I pointed out that one day he would be selling the house and at that time the buyer might want proper repairs done to all the staircases.  That could be very expensive, with drywall removal, carpentry, possible replacement of staircases, and the rest.

My recommendation:  sometimes it is one thing, and only one thing, that can turn a buyer off.  And this was the one thing in this house!  My client moved on.  We are scheduled for another inspection later this week.  It pays to trust your home inspector to evaluate, inform, educate and warn.  Sometimes there are no issues!  And sometimes there are.  And observing and reporting THAT is the objective of a home inspection.

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 15 commentsJay Markanich • August 15 2017 08:23AM

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Wow, what a mess under those stairs. Bouncy stairs are never a good sign!

Posted by Kat Palmiotti, The House Kat (Grand Lux Realty, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com) 5 months ago

Sometimes it is best to walk away Jay Markanich .  As we like to say in my neck of the woods, "nothing is a problem until you have one".  Thanks for the post.

Posted by Randy Hilman, Associate Broker, What Matters to You, Means Everything to Me! (Randy Hilman Homes) 5 months ago

This is great information to share with prospective home buyers.

Posted by Roy Kelley, Roy and Dolores Kelley Photographs (Realty Group Referrals) 5 months ago

Good morning Jay. The buyer was wise to walk away from those stairs. Enjoy  your day!

Posted by Wayne Martin, Real Estate Broker (Wayne M Martin) 5 months ago

I think we have all been in homes where the risers or treads and not scaled properly; that is just one of the many design defects stairs can hold, and the defects you pointed out would be intimidating for many. Someone is going to have to correct these problems and most likely it will be the seller.

Posted by Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI, Presence, Persistence & Perseverance (Realty One Group) 5 months ago

Good morning, Jay Markanich well, that's a horror show but it's fixable.... make sure the framer is not hungover ....

Posted by Barbara Todaro, "Franklin MA Homes" (RE/MAX Executive Realty ) 5 months ago

Good morning Jay. You are the go to guy for finding problems apparent or hidden. Scary stuff here.

Posted by Sheila Anderson, The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133 (Referral Group Incorporated) 5 months ago

That's why we get paid the.... mediocre bucks! When one of your clients walks, and uses you again, you indeed saved them from a possible catastrophe... it's a good feeling!

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) 5 months ago

Something like that should be a red flag to a buyer that the property has not been properly maintained and repaired.

Posted by Joe Pryor, REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties (The Virtual Real Estate Team) 5 months ago

They were frightful, Kat!  And none of us was very heavy.  Those stairs are an accident waiting to happen.

Randy - it didn't take this buyer long to decide that.  Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor, and home buying!

It is, Roy, thanks.

After walking on them, Wayne!  But only once.  Nobody wanted to take them on a second time.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 5 months ago

S&N - if she wants to sell the house.  A little play in the stairs is normal, but not the kind we find there.

Barbara - sure, it's fixable.  But my investor buyer wasn't interested in that unknown expense when there are other fish to fry out there.

Sheila - this one was hard to miss!  When the realtor arrived he came downstairs and met me and asked if I noticed "those stairs"...!

Fred - I expect that repairs to those fellows was more than mediocre bucks.

Joe - who knows?  Those stairs may have been like that for a long time.  A single lady lives there, and maybe not very heavy.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 5 months ago

It is good that your investor has you looking out for him "Every Step of the Way".

Posted by Belinda Spillman, Colorado Living! (Aspen Lane Real Estate Colorful Colorado) 5 months ago

Hi Jay- And this is why every buyer needs a qualified home inspector! Yes, you may have felt some give when walking on them in the first viewing, or you may have heard a squeak but you need an inspector to find out what's truly going on. 

Posted by Kathy Streib, Home Stager - Palm Beach County,FL -561-914-6224 (Room Service Home Staging) 5 months ago

Well done Jay.  I can only imagine the money and legal exposure you just averted for your client.  Sadly, someone will come along and purchase this property and inherit the issue.  Keep up the good work!

Posted by Stephen Weakley (Nationwide Mortgage Services) 5 months ago

Good one, Belinda!  And thanks.

Kathy - it was more than a little!  But I was glad we could get into the crawl space underneath to see it.  Sometimes they are so jammed with stuff that it's not possible to see much.

Thanks Stephen.  I find investors to be more risk averse than other buyers.  And necessarily.  And some people might think it normal!  No one present at the inspection weighed that much - I was probably the heaviest at 215.  And still, everyone noticed.  Plus, in the kitchen, my Red Devil Shooter marble rolled all the way from the entry door to the middle of the floor.  That's always an object lesson!

 

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 5 months ago

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