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New Roof Shingles And Old Plumbing Vent Pipe Collars

I see this so often - new roof shingles and old plumbing vent pipe collars.

Sometimes this is done with a reason - a new layer of shingles is simply laid over the old, so the original collars (AKA boots) are re-used. 

And, perhaps, sometimes this is done to "save money."  Why buy new boots after all?  Aren't the new shingles expensive enough?

Apparently so!

This "roofer" had three such pipes to deal with.

And he dealt with all of them the same way - by gooping silicone all over the cracked, original, rubber gasket.

I don't know the prices of everything, so out of curiosity, when I got home, I looked up collars at my local Lowe's store.  Click here.

This is one of the two brands they sell.  It costs $4.99.

So this "roofer" saved a whopping $15 by reusing the old boots. 

But wait, doesn't caulking cost something?  It does.  So that cut dramatically into his "savings."  Yes, that was sarcastic.

PLUS, by re-using the old collars he compromised the job.  The old rubber was probably cracked, because it was old (!), as the rubber on these collars has a life span about that of shingles!

What you do is pick the collar with the size hole you need, and the angle you want, and viola, just nail it into place.

That's probably easier, and safer, then getting up there later to goop caulking all over the opening.  Especially if you try to make it as pretty as this job.

My recommendation:  do it right!  When my house was 15 years old a bunch of shingles blew off from a wind storm.  My roofer came to replace them, and called me suggesting that we replace the collars.  All on the south side, they were beginning to crack.  He said, "That will extend the life of the roof by 5 years."  Easy, peasy.  Done.  And done right!

 

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 8 commentsJay Markanich • April 24 2016 03:19AM

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Good morning Jay Markanich . I hate to see that. Really? New boots cost about $12 each. I see it here too.

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) over 2 years ago

At that Lowe's page they are pretty cheap Michael!  I don't understand the silicone instead of new.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 2 years ago

Good morning Jay. Some people can't do a job right. It is not in their blood! Enjoy your day!

Posted by Wayne Martin, Real Estate Broker - Retired (Wayne M Martin) over 2 years ago

I get it Wayne.  Which is why I have so much fun!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 2 years ago

As often heard in all phases of live, Jay Markanich "If you have enough time to do it wrong, then you had enough time to do it right". Something this roofer has not yet learned.

Posted by Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI, Presence, Persistence & Perseverance (Realty National) over 2 years ago

It all gets to accountability, S&N.  If he was made to come back to fix it every time he has a half-assed failure, he might think again.

Or might not.  Stupid is a hard condition to correct.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 2 years ago

If you are going to do a job, do it right the first time.  Always saves time, money and heartache down the road.

Posted by Stephen Weakley (Nationwide Mortgage Services) over 2 years ago

But doesn't silicone last forever Stephen?

Um, not here.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 2 years ago

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