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Frosty The Freezer. Okay, It Just Doesn't Have The Same Ring To It.

I'm glad there is not a song called Frosty the Freezer.  Okay, it just doesn't have the same ring to it.

One of the great innovations to the freezer was making it frost free!  No more defrosting!  No more blocks of ice forming inside!  It's frost free!

While perhaps not so visible in a photograph as it was in real life, when I opened the brand-new freezer door on the brand-new fridge during the final walk through of a brand-new house, we saw a lot of frost!

And the frost was localized to one area in particular.

Warm air was getting in!  And we know that warm seeks cold.  Warm air was getting IN.

How can that be?  Certainly a bad door seal.

And that was the case here.

Looking at the door seal there were two indentations.

Refrigerator doors seal by virtue of a magnetic strip, covered by a rubber seal, which sticks itself to the metal on the door.  Over time the seals can become damaged and leak.

But this is a new door!

There should be no damage.  There should be no leak.

You can see the little dents beside each of the red dots.

It's enough of a dent to let air inside, and with that air frost develops.  You can even see frost on the door framing just inside each of the dots!

This fridge needs a new door seal!

My recommendation:   the purpose of the final walk through is to check.  And even the brand-new appliances are checked!  Often there is something amiss.  There was a lot of frost.  You'd think it was seen before now!  Well, maybe not.

 

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 35 commentsJay Markanich • December 17 2014 01:11AM

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Good morning Jay. Yes, I have seen a few of those dealey doo's myself. Being the good inspector that you are you probably said, "The lightbulb is good, insert it in a new refrigerator." – LOL

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 5 years ago

Then you say, "Hey, you have the stubby water filter!"  Right?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Speak for yourself, "Big Boy" - LOL

Stubby? Who you callin' stubby???

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 5 years ago

I am me.  I amd not we.  And I am not Legion.  I am I.

Sure, tell that to all the voices in my head.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Yes, everything should be checked.  that's one I wouldn't have expected, but glad you checked.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) almost 5 years ago

Frosty the Freezer, what a Brand New Shining Tool

With its seal all bent, and the frost intent,

On keeping Frosty cool.

Sung to the tune of Frosty the Snowman.

Posted by Kat Palmiotti, The House Kat (406-270-3667, kat@thehousekat.com, Broker, Blackstone Realty Group - brokered by eXp Realty) almost 5 years ago

Good morning, Jay Markanich it looks like that dented part can be replaced....hopefully....

Posted by Barbara Todaro, Marketing Agent for The Todaro Team (RE/MAX Executive Realty ) almost 5 years ago

Like you said they are hard to see but I did see them.  Should be a simple fix.

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty) almost 5 years ago

Jay, you are good! Glad you caught this and the sellers will have it fixed or perhaps not!!

Posted by Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®, Lewisburg WV, the go to agent for all real estate (Vision Quest Realty) almost 5 years ago

Jay, it is all in the details! Good catch! Enjoy your day!

Posted by Wayne Martin, Real Estate Broker - Retired (Wayne M Martin) almost 5 years ago

Sad that they didn't catch this during installation.  But, it's not too late. 

They no doubt have the new product warranty. 

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) almost 5 years ago

What an incredible thing frost free is.  I remember the chore of defrosting freezers---not a fun project.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 5 years ago

Good morning Jay,

Never have a problem with the old ice chest! But i do love my sub-zero.

Make yourself a great day.

Posted by Raymond E. Camp, Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester (Howard Hanna Real Estate Services) almost 5 years ago

Just because it's new doesn't mean there are no problems with it. It looks like maybe some packing was caught in the seal and maybe formed that dent. Did you have your rubber dent puller with you?

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) almost 5 years ago

It's a good thing that the freezer had a chance to get going for a while before your inspection Jay. An empty box sure eliminates a lot of the guesswork.   :)

Posted by Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366, General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage (Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366) almost 5 years ago

Good catch on that! The walkthrough can be overwhelming and small details can get missed, so a super set of extra eyes is a big bonus (and hassle saver).

Posted by Mike Belobradic, Your Trusted Advisor in Oakville Real Estate (Johnston & Daniel Oakville) almost 5 years ago

Always good to be thorough, can never know what will happen even with new appliances. 

Posted by Kevin Mackessy, Dedicated. Qualified. Local. (Blue Olive Properties, LLC) almost 5 years ago

I've definitely seen this issue in my ten years of attending home inspections.  Thankfully, it can be easily solved.

Posted by Chris Ann Cleland, Associate Broker, Bristow, VA (Long and Foster REALTORS®, Gainesville, VA) almost 5 years ago

I certainly do remember before "frost free"...

Posted by Ginger Harper, Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County! (Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage) almost 5 years ago

Another informative post.  I think most folks want to be free of frost in their house.

Posted by Joan Whitebook, Consumer Focused Real Estate Services (BHG The Masiello Group) almost 5 years ago

Jay Markanich - great to have an inspector like you who can find that 'frosty the freezer' issues.....

Posted by Praful Thakkar, Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale (LAER Realty Partners) almost 5 years ago

Debbie - I always look inside, even if just to check the door seals.  That's why we're there!

Well done Kat!  I confess to singing along!

Barbara - that is probably the only way to fix this.

James - the part can be ordered.  We'll see how fast the builder can make it happen!

Rebecca - they will definitely have this fixed.  It will likely get worse.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Wayne - this little thing affects the efficiency of the entire freezer.

What do you bet they did Lenn?  And did nothing about it.

Charlie - I remember that well.  Towels and ringing, towels and ringing.

Raymond - those are big enough to camp inside!

Probably it Fred.  And stuck there for too long.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Jay Markanich ... awesome catch. I was going to ask what happened but you mentioned it was a builder so obviously they are replacing it... I guess.

If this was a resale home I don't know if the sellers would be willing to replace.

Posted by Richard Robibero, e-Pro, ABR, SRS, Selling Your Home as if it were My Own! (Panorama R.E. Limited) almost 5 years ago

I always look inside freezers and the frig, and sometimes I wish I didn't. Good grief. 

Posted by Scott Seaton Jr. Bourbonnais Kankakee IL Home Inspector, The Home Inspector With a Heart! (SLS Home Inspections-Bradley Bourbonnais Kankakee Manteno) almost 5 years ago

I made a bunch of comments that published and then AR wanted me to log in for some reason.

They were all erased.

Don't have time now to re do them.  Later.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Not everything new is perfect......... It just means no one has used it yet...

Posted by Richie Alan Naggar, agent & author (people first...then business Ran Right Realty ) almost 5 years ago

Such an easy fix.  My guess is laziness on the part of someone! Good catch!

Posted by Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty, Fifteen Years Experience in Brevard County (Bucci Realty, Inc.) almost 5 years ago

Funny post on Frosty the freezer, Northern, VA Home Inspector Jay Markanich at (703) 330-6388.

Posted by Will Nesbitt, Nesbitt Realty is a family-run brokerage. (Nesbitt Realty at Condo Alexandria) almost 5 years ago

I still have an old frig that isn't frost free in the freezer.  I really need to replace it, but I hate tossing something that doesn't work.

Posted by Tammy Lankford,, Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville (Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668) almost 5 years ago

Tom - the builders turn them on to get the ice makers working.  This had been on for a few days I think.

Mike - we are there to see details, large and small!

Kevin - it's just a matter of looking inside and testing things.  I do every one.

Chris Ann - bad seals come up all the time on home inspections, just not so often on brand-new homes like this.

Ginger - those days were difficult!  I remember all the towels and ringing.  Towels and ringing.

 

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Joan - that is the idea behind frost-free freezers!  There should be no frost!

Praful - it's just a matter of opening the door to check things out!

Richard - on resale houses the fridge door seals are often a problem.  But very seldom on brand-new houses like this one.

Scott - I have had the mold, yuck, odor experience many times!

Richie - when you buy new it should work like new!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Gary - I can't believe this wasn't noticed before.  Were they hoping it would slide by?

Will - did it get you singing the song?

Tammy - the older the fridge the more it is costing you to operate!  Older units are incredible energy wasters!  Replace!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

Jay - A nice bit of detective work that would likely have gone unnoticed were it not for your... there is a reason that we say that cost of a home inspection is priceless.

Posted by AJ Heidmann ~ CRS, YOUR Alexandria & Arlington, VA Real Estate Expert (McEnearney Associates, Inc.) almost 5 years ago

Thanks AJ.  Not too hard to find, but important to look!  You simply can't assume that things are working as intended.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 5 years ago

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