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As For Me And My House, This Window Install Would Bother Me Terribly!

As for me and my house, this window install would bother me terribly!

It is not close to plumb and level!

This is the small window in the master bathroom, in the toilet closet and beside the toilet.

Not large, from left to right it is off by over 1/4"!

Standing, the middle of the window is about eye level for me.  I am 6' tall.

Every time I went into the toilet I would look at this window and it would bother me!

So, of course, it went on my list of defects during this pre-drywall construction inspection.

This is how it looks when sitting on the toilet.

Looking from the bottom to the top of the window, it is dramatically out of level.

This is ridiculous.

Anyone, ANYONE, can see that this window is installed askew.

Not only are all windows supposed to be installed by someone trained by the window manufacturer, but there are basic carpentry principles involved as well.

NOT MUCH IN CARPENTRY IS MORE BASIC THAN PLUMB, LEVEL AND SQUARE!

My conclusion?  This installer, or these installers, are NOT carpenters.  Or window professionals.

Beyond that, they don't care.
Beyond that, the supervisor doesn't care.
Beyond that, obviously the builder doesn't care.

Well, I do.  As the home inspector this not only gets pointed out to the buyers, but it is documented with photos and included in the report.

When things like this are brought up to the supervisor they often say, "Oh, that's already on my list."

Hogwash and bull butt.  That should have been corrected the day, weeks ago, when the windows were installed. 

That should not survive until the home inspector has to point it out.

My recommendation:  it is an awfully GOOD  idea to get a pre-drywall inspection.  You never know what will come up.  Clients often ask me what are the most typical findings during a pre-drywall inspection, and the answer is that there is nothing most typical!  We look at and for everything and anything.  And this is the only time to see a lot of it, and the easiest time to have the repairs done.  Home inspections, pre and post-drywall, are a buyer Best Practice.

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 22 commentsJay Markanich • April 14 2014 03:37AM

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Jay, so many builders don't encourage any inspections, but things like this are the reality.
Posted by Carol Zingone, Global Realtor in Jax Beach, FL - ABR, CRS, CIPS (Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Florida Network Realty) about 4 years ago

Once the builder gets the report if he himself did not install the window whoever did will be looking for a new job

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty AR LLC) about 4 years ago

They are the reality Carol, and THE reason builders don't encourage inspections!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

James - it is amazing the number of things, and the kinds of things, I find on a pre-drywall inspection.  Nobody is EVER dismissed because of them.

In one neighborhood ALL the roofs had to be replaced because of one of my inspections.  And that supervisor got dismissed.  Well, not entirely - they simply moved him to a different neighborhood.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

Yes, now is the easiest time indeed to fix these issues.  Those that skip this will usually be sorry later.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) about 4 years ago

Good morning, Jay.... that doesn't happen on our sites.... we have builders who care about their reputation.... they inspect the job the subs do on their projects....

Posted by Barbara Todaro, "Franklin MA Homes" (RE/MAX Executive Realty ) about 4 years ago

Much easier Debbie.  It's available, and literally only nailed on from the outside.

Barbara - oddly these are very good windows!  I don't understand why they would install such good windows, and hire schmucks to do it.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

Soooo...ez solution....you just cut the glass a little crooked...hmmm :) !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) about 4 years ago

Art and beauty are always in the eye of the beholder, S&D!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

Hi Jay,

On the list? Right! Just like the builders here that's what they say. But no tape marking the window to be re worked for square either.

I bet there was siding already started or on the exterior! This woud mean there was NOT going to be any re working of the window. This is why builders don't like us at all.

Have a good day in Bristow.

Best, Clint McKie

Posted by Clint Mckie, Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586 (Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections) about 4 years ago

One of the issues outside was the way they installed the Thermoply, Clint.  My clients had previously sent me photos of how they had done it, which was wrong.  They were in the process of "repairing" that Thermoply when we were there!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

I think the only thing worse would be if the window were level and the building not level Jay.  :)

Posted by Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366, General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage (Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366) about 4 years ago

A couple of times a week I drive by a house like that Tom.  The house is old and literally sinking.  But the windows look great!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

Jay, It is too bad that this is even an issue that someone can not install a window correctly. 

Posted by Donald Hester, NCW Home Inspections, LLC (NCW Home Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

Jay, that would drive me crazy as well! Back in the day when I was in parks and recreation I'd see newly planted trees that were not at 90 degrees. The guys planting would say, "what's wrong with that?" Don't get me started! 

Posted by Tom White, Franklin Homes Realty LLC, Franklin TN (Franklin Homes Realty LLC (615) 495-0752 or www.FranklinHomesRealty.com) about 4 years ago

It takes more than just tapping in some nails from outside Don.  I'm not sure they understand that.

Tom - it'll grow straight up!  Trust me.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

Either that or they're drunk. 

Seriously..that's just blatant carelessness. 

Posted by Suzanne Otto, Your Montgomery County PA home stager (Six Twenty Designs) about 4 years ago

You are right Suzanne.  Stuff like this is silliness.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

How terrible!  And they obviously do not care or they would have corrected their work!

Posted by 1 ~Judi & Don Barrett & Chassy Eastep - Integrity, BS Ed, Integrity Real Estate Services -IDABEL OK (Integrity Real Estate Services 118 SE AVE N, Idabel, OK 74745) about 4 years ago

Unfortunately this is very common around here Judi.  My sarcastic words are "7-11 Construction."

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

I've seen windows like this.   Some are more akin to a trapezoid than a quadrilateral, and always a matter of a lengthy discussion with the buyer as to why on earth anyone would build a window like that.

Posted by Mike Leibel, Associate Broker - REALTOR® (CIR Realty - Condo Specialist) about 4 years ago

The window is okay Mike!  It's the installation!

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...  says he with a wink.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 4 years ago

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