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Like Golf, With Thermal Insulation, Gentlemen, Replace Your Divots!

If I might say this to Flippers as a group - like golf, with thermal insulation, gentlemen, replace your divots!

How often do I see work done in the attic space where the insulation was removed to get to something, but then not replaced afterward?

In this case the bathroom exhaust fan maybe didn't work.  It had to be replaced, but the proximity of the bathroom ceiling to the edge of the roof made it impossible to get to from the attic space.

So the bathroom ceiling needed to be removed.

No problem!  That would be the best way to do it anyway.

So, they took down the ceiling.

Replaced the fan.

Ran the fan exhaust tubing out the side of the roof.

But never replaced the insulation!

Look at the size of that insulation divot!

Gentlemen!  Replace your divots!

There might be a hit of another problem or two as well!  The electric junction box has no cover and the FRT plywood is in really, really bad condition.

What you can't see so well in the middle of the photo above, just to the right of the center, is the large hole in the roof sheathing that they simply shingled over!

Seen to the right, it is slightly larger than a basketball.

And another thing you can't see in the photo is the amount of air that is blowing into the attic space from the very poor connections where the tubing meets the fan box and near where it exits the roof.

All that could be fodder for another day...

So, overall, the grade awarded to this job is very poor.

And that's just what surrounds this Flipper's bathroom exhaust fan installation!  The rest of the house was in similarly unprofessional condition!  This guy proved to be a lot of fun!

Well, we all know dolphins are playful!  They called him Flipper for a reason!

My recommendation:  if you are buying a flip, be sure to spend some additional money on a decent home inspection!  Long term, your wallet will really like it!  Get an experienced home inspector too, because they just seem to know what to look for.  That would be your own Best Practice.

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 12 commentsJay Markanich • February 13 2014 03:55AM

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Yes, good advice.  The home inspection process is even more important on a flipped house.  Also, I've been in several bathrooms lately that have been incredibly cold...some in restaurants and some in customer's homes, and it does seem like insulation (or some sort) is missing.  In some cases it may be below the floor (based on where these are).

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) over 4 years ago

And insulation problems are likely the reason Flooring Cousin!  Post flip, that is.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 4 years ago

It may be just the camera angle but it looks like there has been some issues with mildew.  The wood just doesn't look right. 

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty AR LLC) over 4 years ago

That's the bad FRT plywood James.  It is efflorescing salts and chemicals.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 4 years ago

Or, it could be a town home in Woodbridge purchased by a lovely young lady where the owners had work done and the workers didn't replace the insulation. 

She didn't think much of it until I told here that it would cost her more electricity to heat and cool.

Didn't get by your eagle eye.  I'm looking for that photo of Kisha on the ladder looking at the insulation.  I'll find it.

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 4 years ago

Get the one just after I shake the ladder and tell her not to be nervous.  Women universally like that.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 4 years ago

Hi Jay,

Looks like there may be some efflorescence there as well. I see this it seems every time the electrician or a heating contractor had been to the home at one time. They seem to never replace the insulation.

Have a great day in Bristow my friend.

Best, Clint McKie

Posted by Clint Mckie, Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586 (Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections) over 4 years ago

That's one of the indicators of bad FRT, Clint.  I said that to James above.  The roof was another entirely different, and important, issue!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 4 years ago

Jay, I don't mess around in too many attics, but I do spend some time on the golf course. If you make a hole, you better fill it!

Posted by Tom White, Franklin Homes Realty LLC, Franklin TN (Franklin Homes Realty LLC (615) 495-0752 or www.FranklinHomesRealty.com) over 4 years ago

I remember seeing that sign at the golf course when I was a little kid, Tom.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 4 years ago

Flipper was not counting on you looking behind the scenes....as most do not....fresh paint...new carpet...woo hoo...new house...oh not !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) over 4 years ago

S&D - you mean, home inspectors look into the attic?  Who knew?  This is a large area to go without insulation!  That's a big deal over time.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 4 years ago

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