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In This Northern Virginia Mobile Home The Windows Were Sweating It

You could see pulling up to the house that in this Northern Virginia mobile home the windows were sweating it.

They really were.

All of them.

First, they are all single pane windows.

Very inefficient.

But second, entering the house I could feel the moisture.

The seller was boiling a chicken.

Someone was taking a shower.

The house was moist.

None of the vent fans worked in the house!

This is not a large mobile home - two small bedrooms and it's the common size you are thinking.

But the moisture inside has to have somewhere to go.

And when the house is competing with cold air from outside, well, you have sweating windows!

And the kitchen window was so sweaty for so long that the wood window sill was totally rotten!

I looked at the other homes nearby.

They all looked to have windows just as sweaty!

My recommendation:  inefficiency is just that and you are paying for it!  Sweating windows are the result of heat meeting cold, and when that is multiplied by not expelling moisture from the house, well, the water has no where to go.  So it collects!  Windows are one place where efficiency can be improved dramatically.  It isn't cheap, but in the long run comfort is improved, the windows work, and you do spend less on heating and air conditioning.

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 38 commentsJay Markanich • November 11 2013 04:10AM

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Good morning Jay,

Just replace all of mine.

Make yourself a great day.

Posted by Raymond E. Camp, Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester (Howard Hanna Real Estate Services) almost 6 years ago

Ah, memories.  I remember those sweating windows in so many homes back in the old days.  Of course, double pane windows were not routine in those days.  Neither were vinyl frames. 

The combination of the single pane window in the wooden frame was a mess.

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) almost 6 years ago

It ain't cheap Raymond, but now you have efficient windows that work!

Lenn - those old crank windows we had in our house in Kensington sweated all the time!  We didn't have a kitchen vent either because we built an addition off the back and it blocked the old window vent!

 

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Will the feature last the day, he asks with a twinkle in his eye ... ?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Sounds like a mold breeding ground to me! The house I grew up in had jalousie windows... talk about a house breathing!

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) almost 6 years ago

We had those on our rear addition Fred.  Not at all efficient.  This bathroom was moldy too!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

I have high end windows and a air exchanger and my windows always sweat in the winter. Even when I keep humidity below 50%. Very annoying

Posted by Than Maynard, Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862 (Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma) almost 6 years ago

Jay, it can be a delicate balance keeping windows from sweating---so many factors to consider.  Then again there are some obivous mistakes homeowners make.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 6 years ago

Than - you are not expelling moisture from the house.  Mold considers 40% moisture to be an invitation!

Charlie - there was no balance in this joint!  I remember my grandmother's 1910 house, with single-pane windows, and they never sweated.  Radiator heat and really leaky house!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Single pane windows, you'd think they would have been replaced!

Posted by Evelyn Johnston, The People You Know, Like and Trust! (Friends & Neighbors Real Estate) almost 6 years ago
I don't have doubled panes windows but need them! My windows to sweat on occasion and I hate it!
Posted by Sussie Sutton, UTR TEXAS Realtors - Rep for buyers and sellers. (UTR Texas Realtors) almost 6 years ago

Evelyn - this is a mobile home built in 1978.  It is inhabited by people who live there because it is cheap.  This seller is hoping it sells for $20K.  Windows alone, if they could be fitted into that thin, metal skin, could cost $5K.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Jay, I grew up in the Chicago area and I remember the ice buildup around the bottom of the single pane windows in the winter. This was on the inside!

Posted by Tom White, Franklin Homes Realty LLC, Franklin TN (Franklin Homes Realty LLC (615) 495-0752 or www.FranklinHomesRealty.com) almost 6 years ago

Jay, the house I grew up in---late 1700's---didn't sweat either.  But they did freeze over on the inside and sometimes the snow would actually pile up on the interior window sill

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 6 years ago

Yeah Sussie, but what an easy way to keep the windows clean!

Tom - I would expect that in an older house!  I grew up in one!

Charlie - I don't remember snow, but I do remember the ice and my grandmother would tell me that Jack Frost visited during the night.  I bought it hook, line and sinker.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Jay, this is great information to share with home owners.

Posted by Kathy Sheehan, Senior Loan Officer (Bay Equity, LLC 770-634-4021) almost 6 years ago

Used to write my name in the sweat on the windows...You could erase too and start over...Pre-etch-a-sketch days

Posted by Richie Alan Naggar, agent & author (people first...then business Ran Right Realty ) almost 6 years ago

Kathy - I'm glad you like it.  Sweaty windows are nothing new though!

Richie - there was a delay between messages though!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Replacing inefficient windows may be costly at first but just look at the potential damage you'll be avoiding! Not to mention savings on the heating and cooling bill.

Posted by Suzanne Otto, Your Montgomery County PA home stager (Six Twenty Designs) almost 6 years ago

Agreed Suzanne, but look at my answer in #12!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

People with old single pane windows should get an energy audit to see where all their money is going.

Posted by Marc McMaster, Putting my clients before myself (RE/MAX Centre Realty) almost 6 years ago

I'm not sure they need an audit to know that Marc!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Good morning, Jay. Single strength windows have a "R" rating of 1. No wonder they were sweating. Have a great day!

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 6 years ago

Jay, Those old windows and no ventilation and cooking can be a tough combo.

Posted by Donald Hester, NCW Home Inspections, LLC (NCW Home Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Would functional exhaust vents solve the moisture problem orwill single pane windows continue to cause problems? 

Posted by Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty, Fifteen Years Experience in Brevard County (Bucci Realty, Inc.) almost 6 years ago
Remember the needed bath towels on window sills.
Posted by Margaret Rome, Baltimore Maryland, Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome ( HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400) almost 6 years ago

I didn't know that Michael!  I have been telling people .3!  And not trying to be facetious in saying that!

Don - she was a boilin' a frozen chicken!  That would be on the stove for a while!

Don't know Gary.  Even with good venting in the kitchen and bath the temperature variance from inside to out would cause condensation.

Good idea Margaret!  And you can draw things on the window with alcohol and that won't fog up!  You can leave secret messages!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Thanks for the good information on windows that are sweating. This is never a good thing.

Betty

Posted by Team Honeycutt (Allen Tate) almost 6 years ago

You are right Betty, unless they are in the gym losing weight.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Hard part on a $20,000 mobile home, $5,000 to replace windows seems excessive and how long to justify the expense.

Posted by Bill Reddington, Destin Florida Real Estate (Re/max Southern Realty) almost 6 years ago

Right Bill.  You can't justify the expense.  Improving venting would go a long way however.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Below 40%. Not what the local guys told me. Hate the dry itchy skin of below40% humidity.

I will try it this winter.

Posted by Than Maynard, Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862 (Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma) almost 6 years ago

We upgraded to double pane windows many years ago and it kept the house warmer with less energy.

Posted by Gerard Gilbers, Your Marketing Master (Higher Authority Markeing) almost 6 years ago

Mold actually begins at 20% Than.  But 40% is an invitation.  It's the consistency of moisture that is the real issue.

Gerard - that is probably the most ubiquitous upgrade on an older house.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

I haven't read all the comments so this may have already been addressed.  I can understand one or tow of the mobile homes having window problems but all of them?  Sorry if you addressed this already.

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty) almost 6 years ago

Hi Jay,

When ever I do an energy audit an a manufactured home. The windows and doors are very big energy wasting culprits. I recommend replacement in most cases. Especially the crank out jealousy type windows.

Have a great day in Bristow my friend.

Best, Clint McKie

Posted by Clint Mckie, Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586 (Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections) almost 6 years ago

As Richie points out...it's a great etch a sketch....Here...we cannot sell mobile homes under our licenses...golly darn.

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) almost 6 years ago

All the mobile homes in this neighborhood are dated in the late 70s James.  That might be the reason!

In this case the purchaser is very poor and will likely not want to change out windows.  But that would go a long way toward solving this problem Clint!

Bummer S&D.  Real estate does not cover mobile homes?  Seems odd to me.  Even in existing communities?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

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