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Two Plumbing Drains Putting On The Ritz

Entering the finished master bathroom I saw that it had been remodeled and updates.

Typical stuff - new everything, two nice sinks with fixtures, granite counter tops - the works.

Very nice looking!

Peeking underneath I thought, "Where are the plumbing drains?"

These were not your store-bought cabinets.

They had been created by a real carpenter!  And they looked really well done.

But still, where are the drains?

Pulling, pushing, poking and prodding I got one of the panels to pop off! 

There's the plumbing drain!

Each had been covered with little panels held in place by Velcro.

Both had been so concealed.

Now, it might be a bit fun should a repair be needed, but all in all these are two plumbing drains putting on the Ritz!

My recommendation:  I have to say, I've never seen anything like this before.  It was interesting to say the least.  I think the carpenter made for a very interesting cabinet, very clean and easy to maintain.  But, as I said, repairs might be a bit tough!

 

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 52 commentsJay Markanich • February 15 2013 03:11AM

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Hi Jay, we agree.  Whenever you create something you should thank about how it will be maintained.

Posted by Bob Miller, The Ocala Dream Team (Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty) over 6 years ago

Slick...and sleek...not necessarily service-able !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Slick and sleek..not necessarily service-able !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) over 6 years ago

This is very clever and gives additional space where needed. Better put a note under the sink in case a stranger is doing  repairs. Held together by velcro...creative. I would like to see some of this person's other handiwork. Would make a good blog series...but you are already doing that for us. Thanks.

Posted by Margaret Rome, Baltimore Maryland, Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome ( HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400) over 6 years ago

Bob - but can't you see them both dancing with top hats and a cane, singing the song!?

All of that S&D.  But very nice looking!

That's the only thing in this house I could so write about Margaret!  But I enjoyed the drains very much!  Plumbing never fails, does it?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

The craftsmanship of the professional that works on a house shows, or doesn't. Hidden plumbing, can be handy or horror show hard to er, swallow.

Posted by Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573, Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker (MOOERS REALTY) over 6 years ago

Morning Jay well we all know for sure Uncle Bob had nothing to do with this.  It's just not his style.  Enjoy the day

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty) over 6 years ago

Jay,

Undercabinet staging is all the rage. Servicing be damned.

Rich

Posted by Richard Iarossi, Crofton MD Real Estate, Annapolis MD Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage) over 6 years ago

Andrew - well, at least the guy is thinking!

James - it lacks duct tape, rubber bands and Elmer's glue.

I didn't know that Richard!  Happy to hear that I ran across a chic cabinet!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Good Morning, Jay. Nor have I. That was really slick and well thought out. Now, what's your next trick?

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) over 6 years ago

Jay, I like the concept.  Was in an upscale home recently and they'd done a great job....except with the plumbing drains.  They were not of matching caliber and too much in your face relative to the rest of the room.  A little basket or something to conceal them slightly would have been welcome.

Posted by Liz and Bill Spear, RE/MAX Elite Warren County OH (Cincinnati/Dayton) (RE/MAX Elite 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com) over 6 years ago

It will be pulling a rabbit out of the shower Michael.

Bliz - sometimes what we see under sinks can be ugly.  But still, getting to a problem has to be a part of any installation.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay in all my years I never seen that but it has given me idea's, something to consider with pedestal sinks.

Posted by David Popoff, Realtor®,SRS, Green ~ Fairfield County, Ct (DMK Real Estate ) over 6 years ago

David - that's what I said in a comment up there about some sinks being really ugly underneath.  Go with your ideas!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Good morning Professor Jay.  Some body in that house wants EVERYTHING to look nice and clean, no silly drains to show.  I must admit, it does look nice.

Posted by Kenneth Cole, NYS Licensed Real Estate Salesperson (Weichert Realtors Appleseed Group, 2043 Richmond Ave. S.I.N.Y. 10314. office phone 718-698-9797, Appleseedhomes.com -) over 6 years ago

I think it looks wonderful Ken.  But I did not try to take the trap off.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago
Interesting!! I guess the folks just want things to look pretty and clean.
Posted by Ralph Janisch ABR CRS Broker, Selling Northwest Houston to good people like you! (Janisch & Co.) over 6 years ago

Looks that way J&R!  I like it, but haven't had to fix anything there.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Hi Jay,

What a well built cabinet. That's the way they all should be built. But then it makes it harder for us inspectors to inspect the plumbing drains.

Have a great day in Bristow my friend.

Best, Clint McKie

Posted by Clint Mckie, Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586 (Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections) over 6 years ago

I had to fool around with it Clint!  Once the secret is known it is easy.  As with most secrets...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

A person who doesn't consider repairs in a property is just dreaming.  If an item CAN fail, it WILL fail.  The question is just when.

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 6 years ago

Lenn - the first thing I said to my client was that this was a very clever and good-looking job.  The second thing was that it will be difficult to make repairs!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Certainly better than having the entire underside taken up with hoses and drains, but I would sure hate to do anything to them.

Posted by Than Maynard, Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862 (Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma) over 6 years ago

Jay, makes for a nice looking installation. A great cabinet maker, but doesn't know much about plumbing.

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA over 6 years ago

Hard to work on but great to look at Than!

Mike - he doesn't!  And doesn't care!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

I like the undercabinet light switch. Nothing like a little mood lighting under the sink...

Posted by Tim Bradley, Commercial Real Estate Expert in Jackson Hole, WY (Contour Investment Properties) over 6 years ago

Tim - I never determined what that switch services!  I could only suggest the buyers ask the seller!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Guys who crawl around attics and under homes have stories to tell non-stop about their adventures....Access to anything must be a permanent part of the home...

Posted by Richie Alan Naggar, agent & author (people first...then business Ran Right Realty ) over 6 years ago

At least this isn't one more story about an unqualified "remuddler"!

Posted by Brian Schulman, Lancaster County PA RealEstate Expert 717-951-5552 (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage, Lancaster PA) over 6 years ago

Richie - access can be defined many ways!

Brian - this guy was a carpenter with some ideas!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

it ain't gonna be fun, once those fitting start leaking.... (and you know, that one day they will.... water always wins).

Posted by Alan May, Helping you find your way home. (Coldwell Banker Residential) over 6 years ago

Maybe we could label them, "Permanent fixtures, will never leak..." Alan?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Indeed. Good luck with all of this. These pipes are just popping out left and right. Have a safe weekend.

Posted by Larson Educational Services, Larson Educational Services (Larson Educational) over 6 years ago

Larson - the difficult thing to service are the drain lines.  You might mean the supply lines sticking out?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Definately a contractor, handyman, or homeowner out of control. Someone had too much time on their hands. Good post.

Posted by Cliff Keith, Redwood City Real Estate (Today Sotheby's International Realty) over 6 years ago

Cliff - I bet that guy has done this before or since!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay -- it does make the cabinet so much better looking, without all those pipes in the way, it will make it so much easier to store things under there.  However, it will be very difficult to fix any problems, as you so wisely pointed out to your client.   

Hope you have a fantastic holiday weekend!

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) over 6 years ago

Thanks Steven.  All true!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Don't you just have to love velcro. Next we'll be seeing houses 'built' that way.

Posted by Robert Butler, Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection (Aspect Inspection) over 6 years ago

There will be codes that tell how much must be used to withstand certain wind speeds Robert!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

It may be hard to work on, but I'm impressed with the design and execution.

Posted by Rafi Footerman, Home Inspector, Mold Inspector, Radon and More! (Mid Jersey Inspections) over 6 years ago

Got to admit this guy (or gal) was pretty creative.  Makes for some tough repairs I have to agree.

Posted by Stanley Stepak, Realtor - Avon Lake, Avon, Bay Village, Westlake, (Howard Hanna - Avon Lake, OH) over 6 years ago

I kind of liked it Rafi.  But still, things need to be worked on from time to time.

Stan - it's made of wood.  Definite guy work.   ;>)

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay, I like this concept!  But as you and others have said, when those pipes start leaking, it's going to be a challenge to repair them!

Posted by Fred Griffin, on leave of absence from ActiveRain, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate) over 6 years ago
Interesting, I will have to find a local Velcro contractor for my new wants and needs. ;)
Posted by Pete Xavier, Outstanding Agent Referrals-Nationwide (Investments to Luxury) over 6 years ago

It likely will be Fred.  But still, overall, not a bad job!

Peter - I have bought Velcro to hold my remote onto the book case near my TV.  It works great!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay, Love your stories.  I thought you were going to say they forgot the drains!! Nice twist to the story.  Margaret C.

Posted by Margaret C. Taylor, St Marys/Calvert/Charles MD Real Estate Agent (Century 21 New Millennium MD) over 6 years ago

Let's hope the plumber was as talented as the cabinetmaker!

Even so, every drain needs cleaning from time to time.  This might be an example of "two trades colliding."

The cabinetmaker, though excellent at his craft, was thinking only of making beautiful cabinets.  He wasn't thinking of the ease of access required by plumbers and home inspectors.

Great post!  Thanks for sharing!

 

Posted by Tom Jansson, Chicago Area Home Inspector - InterNACHI Certified (Acuity Home Inspections) over 6 years ago

Margaret - at first I was afraid I could not get inside to see the drains!  But I could!

Tom - could be it's the same guy!  Don't know!  But I really liked the cabinets!

 

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

I'm glad I won't be the one who has to work on the plumbing inside that vanity. Does look like a nice clean job. 

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) over 6 years ago

It took me a minute to figure out how to get those covers off Jim.  But working on the drains might be tough.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay: I love this carpenter's concealment.  It's like feng shui drainage.  Although I'm not a gambling man and don't think I could do it in my home.

Posted by Christopher Campa, Northern VA Realtor (LONG & FOSTER REAL ESTATE) over 6 years ago

Christopher - how you doing!?  It's a very nice job, to a degree!  Not sure about the feng shui.  Look for my feng shui post and you'll enjoy it!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

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