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How Not To Drain The Dishwasher After A New Counter Top Is Installed

The title says it all - how not to drain the dishwasher after a new counter top is installed.

But some people really should be given a prize for ingenuity!  Uncle Bob is alive and well, and making his rounds.

In the olden days, the dishwasher used to drain to something called the "air-gap device."  There are other names, like vacuum breaker, but it's all the same.

The water would be pushed out of the dishwasher, the air would flow up and out over the counter top and the water would make a tight turn in a crotch in the line and flow into the disposal or drain.

Sometimes water spurts from the AIR-gap device, which it is not supposed to do.  Hence the name.

Then in recent years plumbing changed and if there is a nice loop over the disposal the dishwasher can be drained directly into the disposal. 

That is usually what happens when kitchens are remodeled and new counter tops are installed.

You can see from this remodel that no hole was drilled through the quartz counter top for the former air-gap device.

Which is fine.

BUT YOU GOTTA CHECK!

Why must it be checked?  I already said - Uncle Bob and his rounds!

Imagine my utter and complete surprise when I saw this!

Well, shazam!  I've never seen that before!

OK, well, maybe, once or twice, with a couple of zeros behind the number.

But this guy added a special twist!

A shower cap!*

Always thinking ahead, Uncle Bob sees it differently!

To you that might look like an ordinary sandwich bag.  To him that is an opportunity to multi-task!

I ran the dishwasher and it did not leak!  Wow!

Not exactly certain the purpose of the bag, I am nonetheless impressed, and salute true ingenuity.

I guess he wanted the air AND the water to go into the drain!

It also kind of looks like he shimmed that counter top with a pliers and my protractor from 10th grade geometry class.  He also installed the sink, um, interestingly!

Hey, if it works, it works!

I LOVE IT!

My recommendation:  the next time you see a new counter top, peeky peeky under the counter to see what they have done with the dishwasher drain.  You might be as impressed as I with what you see!

* Why does that remind me of a shower cap?  Sometimes when I came home from mowing lawns (I mowed half my neighborhood) I wanted a shower but didn't want to wash my hair again.  So I would use my mother's shower cap.  Don't tell any of the girls at my junior high school though.  I'd be a goner.  They think I'm really cool, at least I hope they do, and if they knew I used a shower cap, well, please just don't say anything.

Thanks.

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 36 commentsJay Markanich • February 01 2013 02:28AM

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Um...well...um...Aw heck, I have no comment.

Guess this proves the old saying "Nothing is impossible to a sufficiently talented fool".

Posted by Jim Palmer, Washington County, Florida (Chipola Realty - Chipley Office (850) 638-2777) over 7 years ago

Jim - this is clever beyond belief!  And did you or did you not use a shower cap?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago
I've used zip lock bags for lots of things, but this is one application I would NOT try!
Posted by Carol Zingone, Global Realtor in Jax Beach, FL - ABR, CRS, CIPS (Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Florida Network Realty) over 7 years ago

You need to start thinking outside the bag Carol.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

LOL, what the heck?  Sandwich bags?  People can be crazy...as I'm sure you know.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) over 7 years ago

Oh Jay Uncle Bob will be so glad to hear the news that although not something to write in his resume you found something he done and you like it.  He'll be so happy thanks

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty) over 7 years ago

They could have used tile glue to install it for all I know, Debbie!

James - I love it!  This guy is good.  A bit whacky, but good!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Hi Jay,

Never know what they were thinking. Maybe they did'nt have a hole saw for the counter top and figured you would never look under it.

But tey were wrong for a second time.

Have a good day in the Bristow area.

Best, Clint McKie

Posted by Clint Mckie, Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586 (Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections) over 7 years ago

A hole saw Clint?  That's a lot of work!  The counter top people already cut a hole for them!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

I enjoyed reading the post and the picture is interesting. Maybe they can use it for a commercial for sandwich bags.

Posted by Gita Bantwal, REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel (RE/MAX Centre Realtors) over 7 years ago

Maybe a commercial on how to fluff your sandwich with air Gita?  Not a bad idea!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

My pet name for these fellows is "Happy Harry the Home Owner" (I gather that yours is "Uncle Bob").  By either name their ingenuity always amazes.  I'm pretty creative myself, but, no why would I have ever thought of something like this.  Its Harrys' and Bobs' hyjinks that make our days interesting!!!

Posted by Stephen Howell, Annapolis MD Homes For Sale 443-994-8043 (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage) over 7 years ago

Uncle Bob has been well known among home inspectors for many years Stephen!  Interesting to be sure...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

The devil is in the details...the dishwasher...we knew you would find them !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) over 7 years ago

That is funny. People think I make stuff up when I describe some goofy thing I find. But you don't have to make it up, it's what we see every day. 

Posted by Scott Seaton Jr. Bourbonnais Kankakee IL Home Inspector, The Home Inspector With a Heart! (SLS Home Inspections-Bradley Bourbonnais Kankakee Manteno) over 7 years ago

Squat, kneel, look.  Pretty simple!  Thanks S&D!

Scott - that is thinking outside of the bag.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Jay, if nothing else, Uncle Bob certainly thinks outside the box. He was probably mentored by Rube Goldberg

Posted by Ed Silva, Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally (RE/MAX Professionals, CT 203-206-0754 ) over 7 years ago

Jay, you have to give him credit for his ingenuity. Uncle Bob's relatives whouldn't have gone to the extra expense of using a sandwich bag. Your secret is safe with me. I won't tell anyone about the shower cap.

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA over 7 years ago

Ingenious! Double zip lock containment, I see nothing wrong with that... very impressive Bob!

I can't believe you admitted to wearing a shower cap.... You are definitely secure!

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) over 7 years ago

That he was Ed!  We should see more cartoons!

Thanks Mike.  My mother also had one of those hair dryers like in the hair salons.  I often dried my hair there - with a net!  No tello.  That's perfect Spanish.

Fred - he did double up on it.  I like the mixing of tools to install that counter - hand and math!  And as to the shower cap, see my answer to Mike above you.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Did you check if at any given time. .McGyver lived in this house?

Have a great Friday. . lol

Posted by Fernando Herboso - Broker for Maxus Realty Group, 301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA (Maxus Realty Group - Broker 301-246-0001) over 7 years ago

This is truly McGyver work, Fernando, but I did not see a paper clip.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

For years people have used pots and pans to catch drip leaks. Now, we use plastic sandwich bags? We are progressing

Posted by Richie Alan Naggar, agent & author (people first...then business Ran Right Realty ) over 7 years ago

Ok, now your just making this stuff up to have things to write about. The sad part is I know that insn't true. You know the inspector is good when you see a pic like this. Can't see that by just bending over.

Posted by Rob Ernst, Reno, NV-775-410-4286 Inspector & Energy Auditor (Certified Structure Inspector) over 7 years ago

That is hysterical Jay.  Good find.  Who in their right mind would think that would work?  PS- lips sealed as far as the shower cap goes.

Posted by Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, REALTOR and Broker (Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates) over 7 years ago

Jay -- amazing what they came up with to level that countertop.  Wouldn't proper shims have been cheaper?

Hope you have a fabulous weekend!

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) over 7 years ago

Richie - since it is clear plastic it can't be green.  I think.

No, Rob.  The inspector has to get down there and look around!  This one did.  Like the pliers?  Once I got under like that and the AAV was missing the cap!  Like you say, there's only one way to see that.  They people would have been continually pouring Clorox and lemon peels down their disposal thinking it was stinking so bad.

Thanks Gary.  There were so many girls I was trying to impress, well, I hope they never find out.  And it was hysterical!  I told my client she was going to make the hit parade, and she did!

Steven - what, those aren't shims?  Are you suggesting this is a shim sham, or a flim flam?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Thanks for bringing us another episode of creative DIY. Why isn’t that on the Discovery Channel? …or maybe the SciFi channel?

Posted by John Juarez, ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN (The Medford Real Estate Team) over 7 years ago

Jay- great post and nice going finding this issue. At some point its going to fail..

Posted by Scott Fogleman, Greater Good Group (New Home Team 804-573-9592) over 7 years ago

Sci-Fi works John.  I have to admit, this is a first for me, with the sandwich bag and all.

Scott - surely.  Who knows when they did it.  The kitchen was recently "remodeled."

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Amazing-  I love the pliers!

Posted by Frank Free, Lake Norman Real Estate since 1992 (Lake Realty) over 7 years ago

I think that is the pinnacle of the post F&M!  That and perhaps the protractor!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

What's an air gap? I almost never, never see one. In fact I just had a rare siting a few weeks back. Sort of like seeing Big Foot.  

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) over 7 years ago

Recently water poured out of the air-gap device during my dishwasher test Jim, and the realtor said, "You mean it's not supposed to do that?"

I've never seen Big Foot, but I see these a lot!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Some people shouldn't be allowed to repair things in their homes!  An inspector's job is full of surprises.

Posted by Robert Sole (REM Inspections LLC) over 7 years ago

C'mon Robert!  That is as cute as it can be.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

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