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Sooner Or Later We Will All Step In It

As we go through life, certainly, sooner or later we will all step in it.

BUT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT IN OUR KITCHEN!

On a recent pre-drywall inspection I noticed something, looked to see why, and then explained it to my client.

She had been through the house many times, even with her parents.  I noticed about 10 things that caused me pause, and would be chicken bones in the throat of the buyer.

This is one of those things.

On the left is where a hole had been prepared in the floor to house the HVAC register.

To the left is the kitchen pantry, and family room on the right.

However, with the floor joists running from where I am standing toward the door, those cavities can be used for many things.

In this case that particular cavity was used to house the dryer vent tubing, which was installed prior to the HVAC duct work.

Since there is not room for the dryer vent and HVAC duct, the duct was moved to the right.

What's my problem with that?

IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DOOR!

That floor register will be metal, or wood or plastic or whatever.  Sooner or later it will be stepped on and bent or broken.  And if the door is open even a little when either the heat or AC turns on, it will whoosh right out the door.

Does anyone doubt that?

So, it is what it is.  By far the better position for the floor register would have been to the left where the door is stationary.  The guy installing the dryer vent tubing saw the hole in the floor, knew what it was for, and apparently didn't care.  The supervisor didn't catch it and now they are left with this option.  At this point the work has advanced such with plumbing and wiring it would be difficult to change it back and reroute everything else.

My recommendation:  this is the kind of thing that should have been caught earlier by the supervisor on the site.  It is never a good idea to have a floor register right where people work or stand.  This is not a code issue and will never be.  The builder says they will "only fix" what are code violations.  That's myopic at best.  I have seen floor registers in front of the kitchen sink, in front of the master bathroom toilet, and in the wall of a small hall linen closet, blowing INTO the closet!  And I am seeing these things long after they have been completed and after someone along the way either did not notice or did not care.  It's always best to have a pre-drywall inspection!

 

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

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Comment balloon 84 commentsJay Markanich • September 21 2012 02:08AM

Comments

Jay, Like you said, just didn't care, or a lack of common sense.  Either way, not something you expect when you're dropping major coin for a new construction home.

Posted by Liz and Bill Spear, RE/MAX Elite Warren County OH (Cincinnati/Dayton) (RE/MAX Elite 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com) almost 6 years ago

Yes, that is just stupid.  Very inefficient.  Plus, I'm sure more dirt will get in there.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) almost 6 years ago

For sure Bliz.  This is something that could have been caught a long time ago, with paint sprayed to show where each of these tubes should have been placed.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

It will FILL with dirt Debbie!  Plus be a chicken bone!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Jay, pretty careless and I have seen numerous such mistakes that builders have missed or simply not taken the time to remedy.  On one site there was rarely a supervisor present.  Choose your builder carefully.

Posted by John F Muscarella, Broker/Owner, Venice, FL, Florida's Suncoast (RIVER FARM PROPERTIES, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Not caring is definitely what happened here.  I hope they make it right for that buyer!

Posted by Kathryn Maguire, Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach (GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881) almost 6 years ago

John - that is a question I ask of my clients - is your supervisor easy to talk to?  Forthcoming with information?  The answer is more often not than so...

Kathryn - there isn't the opportunity now!  I looked and it isn't going to happen because it can't.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Good morning Jay and good call. I have shown houses where they put registers in front of sliders and almost every one of them were damaged from being stepped on. Another GREAT reason to get a pre-drywall inspection. Still time to change.

Posted by Randy Ostrander, Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI (Lake and Lodge Realty LLC ) almost 6 years ago

Randy - if I can see this and think ahead as soon as I walk into a room, you would think someone else would be able to also.  But alas, not so!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

You obviously do not see the value of the shoe and foot dryer. Pure genius. 

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Funny you say that Jim.  Often I take my wet shoes off when I enter a house and set them onto the floor registers to dry!  I just try to pick a register where nobody will trip over my shoes...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

I am surprised builders do not think of these things. I have seen this in many homes.

Posted by Gita Bantwal, REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel (RE/MAX Centre Realtors) almost 6 years ago

My question exactly Gita!  If I can, anyone can.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Jay - It's just a matter of "using one's brain," a sometimes rare exercise in home construction.

Posted by John Mulkey, Housing Guru (TheHousingGuru.com) almost 6 years ago

Jay, as I read this post,  I find myself looking at where my registers are, and feel relieved. We have french doors and the registers are on the fixed side. Obviously someone did care, which is definitely not the case with that photo

Posted by Ed Silva, Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally (RE/MAX Professionals, CT 203-206-0754 ) almost 6 years ago

Good morning Jay,

Great title and great post...a little common sense would have gone a long way on this install!

Posted by Lisa Von Domek, ....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless! (Lisa Von Domek Team) almost 6 years ago

Jay...

Good catch. I am not a fan of floor registers anyway but this is so obvious you wonder how the rough-in inspection missed it.

Posted by Richard Weisser, Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional (Richard Weisser Realty) almost 6 years ago

Jay, interesting how this builder will not stand behind their work on items that are not code violations. What other things did they miss that weren't code violations?

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA almost 6 years ago

Jay, I agree.  A supervisor should have picked it up, and yet I wonder why some constructions workers let it go as well.  Some just go and do what their told, but somebody should have been alert to this.

Posted by Gary Frimann, REALTOR and Broker (Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates) almost 6 years ago

John - they had it right the first time and the dryer guy foreclosed on that install!

Ed - the fixed side is where to put them!  Obviously. 

Lisa - and it takes me to point it out?  Why?

Richard - they are necessary here as there is another system for upstairs.  A necessary evil?

 

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Mike - my client has her walk through with the builder this morning.  We'll see what happens!

Gary - then why does it take the home inspector (who is besmirched by builders) to pick this up?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Some things look okay on paper at first, as things move along the little details become pressing issues. Thanks for the new construction inspection Jay.

Posted by Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366, General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage (Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366) almost 6 years ago

Hi Jay. Strange stuff for sure.  I have also seen where one contractor (say the dryer vent guy in your example) uses another's space (say the HVAC guy's here). Instead of changing his route, the HVAC guy just cuts through the dryer guy's work to install his stuff where it should be. The problem is the HVAC guy just leaves the dryer dicsonnected!  It is amazing what goes on.
Bruce

 

Posted by Bruce Kunz, REALTOR®, Brick & Howell NJ Homes for Sale (C21 Solid Gold Realty, Brick, NJ, 732-920-2100) almost 6 years ago

Lack of respect....for them selves and others..

Posted by Ginger Harper, Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County! (Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage) almost 6 years ago

Reverse the door.

Posted by Tim Bradley, Commercial Real Estate Expert in Jackson Hole, WY (Contour Investment Properties) almost 6 years ago

Another common issue in construction is misplacement of light switches......on occasion, I show homes and can't find the light switch in a given area.

Posted by Carol Lynn Johnson, Residential Specialist (Re/Max Elite Realty) almost 6 years ago

Jay, nice post today and the picture truly tells the story. Thanks for sharing about how a simple hole can become a problem if not placed in the proper location.

Posted by David Burrows, No Pressure, Just Seriously Devoted to Real Estate (Classic Realty) almost 6 years ago

Jay...I'm living proof.  I live with a floor register direcly in front of my back door that leads to the deck.  My wife and I purchased this home as a foreclosure roughly 8 years ago.  We always make a consious effort not to step on it.  This is one of the many flaws with the design of my home, however with that said the positive far out weigh the negative...have just learned to live with it.

Posted by Wayne Bennett, Real Estate...As It Should Be (One Home Team Realty/Charlotte,NC 704-293-3931) almost 6 years ago

I got one and I am the guilty party. In order to bring AC to that part of the house, I had to do it..At least it is in the corner

Posted by Richie Alan Naggar, agent & author (people first...then business Ran Right Realty ) almost 6 years ago

Contractors aren't worried about location. They just want to get the job done and get paid.

Posted by Than Maynard, Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862 (Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma) almost 6 years ago

Even in other locations it should make sense. That will now be on my list to specifically look for.

Posted by Hella Mitschke Rothwell, Hawaii & California Real Estate Broker ((831) 626-4000) almost 6 years ago

I find it irritating that a supervisor didn't pick this up.  it's just too obvious an error, and shouldn't be left to the "non-professional-builders" (the buyers) to pick up themselves, nor through their inspector.

Posted by Alan May, Helping you find your way home. (Coldwell Banker Residential) almost 6 years ago

Jay  Picky, picky, picky.  In my case, I might even mitakenly drop some "sauce" down there and then have a mess to clean up

Posted by Art Kruschka, Manassas Woodbridge Dumfries Real Estate Sevices (Administrative Manager) almost 6 years ago

Jay, It always surprises me when something like this isn't caught when there is ample time either by the installer or the supervisor. I guess speed sometimes over-rules logic. 

Posted by Adrian Willanger, Profit from my two decades of experience (206 909-7536 AdrianWillanger-broker.com) almost 6 years ago

Jay, it never ceases to amaze me at the shoddy workmanship of some contractors and home builders... This mistake should have been caught, or  perhaps they did see it and didn't care, as it would have involved too much time and money to correct it...

Posted by Gloria Valvasori, Accredited Senior Agent, REAL Experience | REAL Commitment | REAL Results! (BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS REAL ESTATE SIGNATURE SERVICE) almost 6 years ago

I think it should be a code violation...it can also be a trip hazard way before it starts to get bent or broken.

Posted by Goran Utvic, We Buy & Sell Chicago Houses Fast (606 Homes LLC | Chicagoland Brokers Inc, Chicago IL 60656) almost 6 years ago

be a great way to create condensation all over the door too, sure that can't be good either! 

Posted by Mark Loewenberg, KW 561-214-0370 (KW of the Palm Beaches) almost 6 years ago

Sadly most people just don't care about the quality of good sense of the work. 

Posted by Tammy Lankford,, Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville (Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668) almost 6 years ago

We install our vents in the ceiling here in Florida due to the climate and I like that installation MUCH better than floor vents like I have lived with in other parts of the country.

Posted by Nan Jester, Realtor, Exit Real Estate Gallery (Exit Real Estate Gallery Jacksonville Beach, FL ) almost 6 years ago

Jay -- I am sure the dryer vent installer thought that hole was cut in the floor to make it easier for him to do his job. ;-)   Why didn't the AC person complain the next time he showed up -- and request the super to get the dryer vent guy back out to fix things before the progressed to this point?  Sounds like multiple parties at fault.  Maybe the dryer vent company can pay to pull everything out and get it fixed. 

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) almost 6 years ago

Hi Jay,  Yikes !  At first I didn't see the correct floor vent - I was looking at the dark colored vent.  Who would accept that ?!?!

Posted by Bill Gillhespy, Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos (16 Sunview Blvd) almost 6 years ago

It's amazing that the project manager or supervisor didn't correct this obvious error!  If you found this and other things, I'm surprised the buyer would go through with the purchase of this home.

Posted by Maureen Bray Portland OR Home Stager ~ Room Solutions Staging, "Staging that Sells Portland Homes" (Room Solutions Staging, Portland OR) almost 6 years ago

Another post tomorrow Tom.  Just as fun an installation!

I have seen that too Bruce.  Each battles the other and does his own thing!

Ginger - it sure is careless work.  Lack of respect is a pretty good definition.

Tim - or move the kitchen to the front and have that space available for a register.  Either plan works for me.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Carol - had one of those just today!  On a new condo!

Thanks David.  That isn't just a hole!  It's important!

Thanks Wayne!  Real life experience here!

Richie - the corner is fine, just not where people walk through a door!

 

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

True words Than.  Would they do it that way on their houses?

Hella - a very good thing to consider when you are walking through houses!

It irritates me too Alan.  And I see this crap all the time.

Art - call me when you do that.  I want to watch the clean up...  I'm easy to entertain and obviously a cheap date.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Adrain - it's easier to catch early than late, and much better now than after drywall!

Any of those could be the reason Gloria.  And thanks for the reblog!

I don't know if it is Goran, but it doesn't matter.  It isn't smart, for sure!

Mark - don't know, but even if it blows on the door it's still in a dumb place!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Tammy - I think that is becoming more and more the norm.

Nan - this is the middle level and the upper level has its own system.  So it has to be in the floor here.  The upper level is in the ceiling.

Steven - I don't know the timing of everything - electrical, plumbing, HVAC, etc.  But the dryer guy was first, for sure.

Bill - the correct one on the left.  The one they intend to use is covered.

Maureen - this isn't the only thing that's whacky!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Good lord! Jay your adventures never cease to amaze me, the things you have seen my friend...

Posted by Adam Brett, The Adam and Eric Group, Fullerton's Finest (The Adam and Eric Group) almost 6 years ago

It's fun Adam!  Wait til tomorrow!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

We just did a new build inspection today and found a ton of issues as well.  A leaky dishwasher and an incorrectly installed garage door opener to name a few.  Good luck with this one!

Posted by Spectrum Inspection Group (Spectrum Inspection Group) almost 6 years ago

Thanks Spectrum.  Tomorrow's post is one more fun thing on this house!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

I just can't wait.  I will  read  tomorrow  also..

 

Posted by Ginger Harper, Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County! (Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage) almost 6 years ago

You will enjoy it Ginger.  Promise!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

This is very common when people put a door in where there was once a window. The grates are always beat up and bent and the duct is full of dirt, rocks, and other junk. Not something you would expect in a new home.

Posted by Rob Ernst, Reno, NV-775-410-4286 Inspector & Energy Auditor (Certified Structure Inspector) almost 6 years ago

Just a case of someone not caring, and another person cutting corners.

Posted by Erica Ramus, MRE, Schuylkill County PA Real Estate (Erica Ramus - Ramus Realty Group - Pottsville, PA ) almost 6 years ago

Not something you'd expect Rob!  Putting a door later you are bound by the house.  Now they are creating the house!

Erica - cutting corners or cutting duct work.  Either way, you are right about not caring.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

It's new construction so we don't need a home inspection, right?  Afterall, there's a warranty...

Posted by Rafi Footerman, Home Inspector, Mold Inspector, Radon and More! (Mid Jersey Inspections) almost 6 years ago

That's what the buyer is told Rafi!  Warranty ... right.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

That's amazing - reverse the doors?    I'm not sure you want the door right in front of the pantry, but, it is an idea...

Posted by Dagny Eason, Fairfield County CT, CDPE Homes For Sale and Condo (Dagny's Real Estate) almost 6 years ago

No likely a this point Dags!  It's probably better to have the opening further from the corner anyway.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Great title... in fact it was the title that drew me to your post, not what I expected LOL... but great info... thanks and congrats on the Feature - Beth

Posted by Richard and Beth Witt, Long Island Cash Home Buyer 516-330-6940 (Long Island Cash Home Buyer) almost 6 years ago

Jay,

"The builder says they will "only fix" what are code violations."

This is a potential code violation.  Not sure which version of the building codes are being used for this home but they are much the same. 

This is from the 2009 IRC.

R101.3 Intent. The purpose of this code is to establish minimum requirements to safeguard the public safety, health and general welfare through affordability, structural strength, means of egress facilities, stability, sanitation, light and ventilation, energy conservation and safety to life and property from fire and other hazards attributed to the built environment and to provide safety to fire fighters and emergency responders during emergency operations.

R106.4 Amended construction documents. Work shall be installed in accordance with the approved construction documents, and any changes made during construction that are not in compliance with the approved construction documents shall be resubmitted for approval as an amended set of construction documents.

From the 2009 IMC:

101.3 Intent. The purpose of this code is to provide minimum standards to safeguard life or limb, health, property and public welfare by regulating and controlling the design, construction, installation, quality of materials, location, operation and maintenance or use of mechanical systems.

102.1 General. Where there is a conflict between a general requirement and a specific requirement, the specific requirement shall govern. Where, in a specific case, different sections of this code specify different materials, methods of construction or other requirements, the most restrictive shall govern.

102.3 Maintenance. Mechanical systems, both existing and new, and parts thereof shall be maintained in proper operating condition in accordance with the original design and in a safe and sanitary condition.

102.8 Referenced codes and standards. The codes and standards referenced herein shall be those that are listed in Chapter 15 and such codes and standards shall be considered as part of the requirements of this code to the prescribed extent of each such reference. Where differences occur between provisions of this code and the referenced standards, the provisions of this code shall apply.
Exception: Where enforcement of a code provision would violate the conditions of the listing of the equipment
or appliance, the conditions of the listing and the manufacturer’s installation instructions shall apply.

The model building codes can not account for the thousands of possibilities and instead creates general statements and requirements such as these.  The codes also defer to engineered designs and manufacturers' requirements.  Just like any other part of the home the HVAC system is designed and placed by the Architect/Engineer.  That includes routing of ductwork and placement of registers.  It was obvious to the designers that the placement of a duct opening in a walking path was not safe and as such they placed it where it would be less likely to be walked on.  The questions here are:

  1. Did the builder apply to the AHJ for the change in duct routing and register placement?
  2. Did the AHJ approve of any such change.

Of course we already know the answer to question 1 - "NO".  As for question 2 even if they did apply it would most likely have been "Yes".

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by Emmanuel Scanlan (PS Inspection & Property Services LLC) almost 6 years ago

Dear Jay,

It may cost a little to repair it right then, but the annoyance of living with this mistake would drive me batty. Shouldn't it have been much easier to move the dryer vent than the heating vent?

Posted by Dörte Engel, ABC - Annapolis, Bowie, Crofton & rest of Maryland (RE/MAX Leading Edge) almost 6 years ago

No matter what stage - if it's wrong it obviously isn't right.  Half-assed excuse for poor workmanship & supervision.

Posted by Lyn Sims, Schaumburg IL Area Real Estate (RE/MAX Suburban) almost 6 years ago

What a shame this wasn't planned better--guaranteed to be a major headache for the owner, and for no good reason.

Posted by Lottie Kendall, Serving San Francisco and the Silicon Valley (Pacific Union International) almost 6 years ago

Contractors do the darndest things!  Even perimeter registers away from doors can get damaged.  What was this contractor thinking? Or was s/he?

Posted by Sharon Parisi, Dallas Homes (United Real Estate Dallas ) almost 6 years ago

Great one Jay, with all the money people spend for new construction, you would think that the builders would at least try to get it right, and fix it when they make a mistake.

Posted by Bob Crane, Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671 (Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams fox cities) almost 6 years ago

The ones that really amuse me are when they vent the dryer under the home. It's always a lot of fun crawling around through years of built up lint.

Posted by John DL Arendsen, Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & Contractor (CREST BACKYARD HOMES, ON THE LEVEL GENERAL & FACTORY BUILT HOME CONTRACTOR, TAG REAL ESTATE SALES & INVESTMENTS) almost 6 years ago

It's unbelieveable what builders do and how some things just don't make any sense at all. It's as if the people building the homes have never lived in an home. I honestly belive resale is better just because you at least get to see exactly what you are getting when you buy it. If you do build it's imperative that the buyer visit the home site OFTEN and definitely do pre-drywall inspections...and also have an outside inspector (not a city or code inspector or the builder's inspector) inspect the home prior to the punch list inspection with the builder so the buyer can have a complete list of items needed to be corrected prior to close. For all of the above reasons, this is why buyers need buyer representation by an agent other than the one at the builder's office!! 

Posted by Arizona Home Group RE/MAX Excalibur (The Arizona Home Group) almost 6 years ago

Thanks Beth, I'm glad the title did draw you!  I try to be creative but sometimes the titles are just silly!

Emmanuel - you could put up a post of just that response!  Thanks!  And you are right - it might have been approved, even though it lacks common sense!  You need a photo too!

Dorte - having a register right in front of the door would drive me batty.

Lyn - that's a good word for it!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Lottie - it was planned, then not planned, then covered for the broken plan!

Sharon - they no thinko, me thinko.  That's perfect Spanish.

Bob - and, excuse me, why would anyone think that?!

John - that's as bad as the dryer vent through a roof 40' high!  Good luck seeing when to clean that out, and cleaning it!

Arizona - I agree with all that!  My mom used to say that engineers should be required to cook on their stoves before they put them on the market!  She had a point...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 6 years ago

Thanks for the aricle.  It's clearly a dumb move as certainly it will be walked on and eventually damaged.  It can't be code compliant.  

Posted by Frank Castaldini, Realtor - Homes for Sale in San Francisco (Coldwell Banker ) over 5 years ago

Frank - I don't know that the code addresses this.  The code is a minimum standard and this requires thinking somewhat elevated from that point...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 5 years ago

THe one in my house is in front of the dishwasher. It is a dirt catcher for sure.

Posted by Lizette Fitzpatrick, Lizette Realty,Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes - (Lizette Realty - Lexington KY - Richmond KY) over 5 years ago

Not the best spot Lizette!  And it likely gets really dirty!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 5 years ago

Jay - It's just laziness on the part of the contractor, plain and simple.  This was the easiest way to do it, and that's what was done!

Posted by Brad Baylor (ERA Coup Agency) over 5 years ago

Jay:

Good thing the buyer has you to catch the problem.  I hope the buyer paid to have the vent replaced to the area you suggest.  In the long run it will be worth it.

Posted by Evelyn Kennedy, Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA (Alain Pinel Realtors) over 5 years ago

Brad - for whatever the reason - fix it!

Evelyn - for sure.  Why is it I see this when I walk into the room?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 5 years ago

I am thinking it is just a quick fix that was spur of the moment done by one of the workers....while the supervisor was sleeping!

Posted by Gary L. Waters, Broker Owner, Waters Realty of Brevard, LLC, ... a small office, delivering big service! (Waters Realty of Brevard, LLC) over 5 years ago

Yeah, the dryer guy Gary!  And it was let go!  Or not noticed.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 5 years ago

Jay

Great title that drew me, and others in!!

It's hard to come up with an explanation for why this would have been done this way. For builders who do this work all the time one would think this would be more than obviously a dumb thing to do.

Jeff

Posted by Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude - Carlsbad (Solutions Real Estate ) over 5 years ago

How could I agree with you more Jeff?  Let me think...

I don't know!

I often put up provocative titles to draw people in!  Here's one:

http://activerain.com/blogsview/817441/i-discriminate-every-day-i-really-do-

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 5 years ago

Title caught me, that is something I probably would have missed, too.

Posted by Liane Thomas -Top Listing Agent, Bringing you Home! (BROKER Allison James Estates & Homes BRE 01885684) over 5 years ago

Gee, Liane, what image did you have?  I doubt that if you lived there you would have missed that hole in the floor!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 5 years ago

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