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Don't Bump The Poor Plumber With Your Car Door!

Here is an interesting installation!  I have never seen this before!

Don't bump the poor plumber with your car door!

This is new construction.

That is a plumbing clean out.

You've seen them.  They have a cap with a square head, and the cover can be twisted off so the plumber can send a snake down to clean out a clog.

Depending on the size of the house there are 1 or 2 or 3 indoors, and one outdoors.

Sometimes in townhouses they are buried in the driveway behind the house.  Flush to the concrete or asphalt, the cover can be removed and cleaning done.

In this case, for some unknown reason, the buried tube is in the garage.  The servicing tube seems to have been added on later as an after thought.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS!

Apparently a tube extending from the wall to the floor will contain some kind of clean-out port, and the hook up will be made.

THE COUNTY APPROVED THIS, SO WHAT CAN I SAY?

This is a single-car garage.  Imagine taking groceries out of the rear of the car (back door or trunk) and walking around the edge of the car to carry them indoors.

To me this installation seems like a problem, OR ACCIDENT, waiting to happen!

And a plumber crouched down working them could be butt bumped by a car door!

Asking my client to get back to me with the builder's explanation of this installation, he did not.  I suspect the builder told him that this is it and to suck it up and live with it!

My recommendation:  some things are hard to understand.  Maybe this is the best resolution of a problem forgotten until later in the process, with an installation necessary, but not smart.  When something odd like this is seen, it never hurts to ask why!

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

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Comment balloon 22 commentsJay Markanich • July 12 2012 04:58AM

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Good morning, Jay....I hope the buyers challenge that.... the county screwed up that inspection, if they inspected it at all....

Posted by Barbara Todaro, Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team (RE/MAX Executive Realty - Retired ) about 8 years ago

Then on the other hand.  The car can be moved out of the garage before the plumber does his work.

Then on the other hand, unless there is an expectation that the builder will move that access, why even ask??

 

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) about 8 years ago

I was told the county had been there and saw no "fail" stickers on the windows Barbara.  So, apparently this passes for good, and smart, stuff!

Lenn - the liklihood that this clean out will be needed is minimal, as you know.  But it's the stupidity of the thing that bothers me.  Will they change it?  No.  Will they reroute the dryer vent through the 40' high roof?  No.  Good luck with that one too - another fun clean-out job!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

Jay,  Another great example why there is a need to always inspect "new" construction.

 

 

Posted by Vince Chinell, CPI (VICO Home Inspection) about 8 years ago

I think we can chalk this one up the shoddy workmanship.  Should have been caught before the pour.

Posted by Ralph Janisch ABR CRS Broker, Selling Northwest Houston to good people like you! (Janisch & Co.) about 8 years ago

Isn't this a riot Vince?  I honestly have never seen anything like it!

J&R - agreed.  I betcha the plans say nothing about that in the middle of the garage.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

Good morning Jay. Looks like a trip hazzard in a one stall. Half the fun of showing homes is seeing what some people thought was a great idea at one time. lol

Posted by Randy Ostrander, Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI (Lake and Lodge Realty LLC ) about 8 years ago

And this is a new home Randy!  Imagine what people will think years from now?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

Unbelieveable... I am always amazed when I see someting like this, some people just don't care do they?

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) about 8 years ago

I would like to think I get surprised by stuff I see Fred, but I really don't.  Does that mean I am becoming jaded?  Or expecting the weird?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

Jay - It's a matter of thinking ahead as well as thinking through the problems that arise during construction. Sometimes the "worker" doesn't feel the responsibility to actually think through his work. .

Posted by John Mulkey, Housing Guru (TheHousingGuru.com) about 8 years ago

I thought you'd love this one John.  And who can say what the "thinking" was on this one!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

No Jay, not jaded. Expecting the weird? I think just not surprised when you do see them. I find myself shaking and scratching my head a lot as well. it just amazes me that when these "professionals" do stuff like that, it is ok. You expect it from the homeowner, or handyman but I guess the days of the craftsman are gone.

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) about 8 years ago

Fred - when I was a kid, if I wanted to be a carpenter I had to work with one for a long time even to be called an "apprentice."  Now, the trades get picked up at 7-11!  I sarcastically call it "7-11 Construction."

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

LOL... that's a good one. I know they come from the "rent a day laborer" as well. I used to work for a building materials company back in the day, and I had a friend that taught me sooo much about framing. He was amazing. He was a very smart man, a true craftsman. Those days are gone my friend. A lot of it is money and lazyness.

Posted by Fred Hernden, CMI, Albuquerque area Master Inspector (Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area) about 8 years ago

Heerya.  I heerya.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

Jay, There are many odd things in construction that just don't look right. Asking is never wrong.

Posted by Debbie Reynolds, Your Dedicated Clarksville TN Real Estate Agent (Platinum Properties) about 8 years ago

Debbie - sometimes we ask and the supervisor looks at us like we grew a horn from our ears!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

Good morning Jay after reading the post and looking at the photo my question is what else did they do or more importantly what did they not do?  Enjoy the day

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty) about 8 years ago

This was a pre-drywall inspection James, so I was able to see everything!  And this is one of many wonders this house had to show!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

Jay,  This reminds me of many things I have seen on Mack Trucks. I do not know how many times I have heard a tech say "I wish the SOB that put this here had to work on it".

Posted by Tom Bailey (Margaret Rudd & Associates Inc.) about 8 years ago

Sounds like my mother Tom!   She used to say that engineers should be forced to cook on stuff before they put it into the market!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 8 years ago

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