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"Laundry Room Conveniently Moved From The Garage"

On the "features" list of the house it said:  Laundry room conveniently moved from the garage.

And it was true.  It had been moved. 

Sure, it took up a portion of the basement family room.

And had a second fridge added to the room.

But never mind, the rest of the basement family room had been turned into a "convenient" basement bedroom!

It was comical, to say the least.
It was very unappealing.
It was silly because it looked silly. 
It was right off the entry way, with a 6' wide opening without a door!
It was neither a laundry room or a bedroom.

I am surprised sometimes at what people consider to be "features" of a house, and that a Realtor would tout such.

Let me just show you a couple of things about this "laundry room."  Think about the word DANGEROUS as you read this.  Certainly no County permit saw the light of day.

The photo on the left shows the drain arrangement for the washing machine.

It features the MYTHICAL TRAP!

This is the famous, yet seldom seen, sideways trap, romanticized by Homer in The Odyssey, mythically said to have worked well in Atlantis, and reported often by alien abductees as technology we should mimic.

HAVING SEEN ONE IN PERSON, NOW I KNOW THEY EXIST!  I am very happy to be able to share it with you.

That little brown thing sticking out of the wall near the trap is a live electric cable which, at least, is made safe with two wire nuts.

The drain feeds right into the overflow tubing behind the NEW(!) bath tub which was added to a former powder room.  The bath tub did not need a trap because, as you see, the MYTHICAL TRAP! is already installed.  You will notice the well-placed air vent so there can be no danger of overflow.

The hot and cold valves come directly out of the wall and were plumbed such that not even I, which I am embarrassed to say, could tell where they came from!  Well, that is some fine plumbing there!  Artfully designed!

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE DID NOT EVEN HAVE TO RUN THE WASHING MACHINE TO KNOW THAT THIS DRAIN IS TIED INTO THE MAIN DRAIN OF THE HOUSE!

Looking to the other photo, that is the receptacle for the dryer!  It carries 220 volts.  It is buried inside of drywall joint compound.  There is no box which contains the wiring, nor cover to protect from sparks, but I am certain the wiring is properly done and encased in that joint compound.  NO PROBLEMS THERE!

My recommendation:  obviously this post is sarcastic and making fun.  These are dangerous installations!  To tout them as features is silly.  A seller might think this is something somebody else would want to buy, but any seasoned Realtor should recognize it for what it is (infantile and dangerous) and suggest a remedy before the house goes on the market.

Just saying...


 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

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Comment balloon 52 commentsJay Markanich • April 18 2012 04:06PM

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Jay, thanks for sharing today. One more reason to have a qualified Home Inspector for every sale.

Posted by David Burrows, No Pressure, Just Seriously Devoted to Real Estate (Classic Realty) over 6 years ago

YEOW!  I hope this is a fixer-upper that is under construction.  Sometimes this type of marketing works - I don't think these photos will help

Posted by Wallace S. Gibson, CPM, LandlordWhisperer (Gibson Management Group, Ltd.) over 6 years ago

Just plain silly is an understatatement.  Unsightly and dangerous to be sure.  You have to shake your head!

Posted by Kathryn Maguire, Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach (GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881) over 6 years ago

David - there is a lot to see here!  I wonder sometimes, I really do.

Wallace - the buyers canceled the inspection after the exterior and my explanation of what was going on in this laundry room!  I never saw the upstairs and "remodeled kitchen."

Kathryn - and this room smelled really bad!  Someone sleeps there!  You'd think they would make a connection, but no...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Aliens and Atlantis, a mythological science fiction post. Yep, the builder of this room is living in a fantasy world. 

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) over 6 years ago

Am I right in identifying that as the "mythical trap" we have all heard so much about Jim?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

One man's innovation is another man's detonation. 

Keep the posts coming, they are the best. 

Posted by Erv Fleishman, Luxury Prop Specialist Realty Associates (Realty Associates) over 6 years ago

Thank you Erv.  This laundry room was in fact a detonation!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay, many people think permits are just another layer of bureaucracy, perhaps... but they also ensure that minimum standards are met...

Posted by Chris Smith, South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta (Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage) over 6 years ago

That is exactly correct Chris.  Minimum is minimum.  This was way, way below the minimum though!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

We have to love when these things are completed with unlicensed personnel. Pictures do not do it justice.

Posted by Harry F. D'Elia, Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR (Real Estate and Beyond, LLC) over 6 years ago

No Harry, you are right.  Being there was an experience in itself.  Even entering the room...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

These are the homes buyers should RUN from. The exception being if they are investor planning a major overhaul. As a listing agent I would have "passed" on this opportunity.

Posted by Doug Rogers, Your Alexandria Louisiana Agent (Bayou Properties) over 6 years ago

You got that one right Doug.  These buyers never got out of the basement!  There were many other things.  We didn't even get upstairs.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay, aren't there supposed to be socks stuffed into those drain openings?  By the way Croakster helped me on my inspection yesterday.  I see he isn't getting any skinnier.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) over 6 years ago

Charlie - who knows what they were thinking.  The dryer is right there and surely there are socks nearby.

As to Croakster, I have not seen him yet this spring.  Maybe this winter he picked up some weight?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Wow, I am speechless.  Now I'm wondering what the rest of the house looks like.  Does the agent really think they can pass an inspection.

Posted by Paula McDonald, Magnolia Realty ~ Granbury, TX 936-203-0279 (Magnolia Realty ~ Granbury) over 6 years ago

I don't know what the agent was thinking Paula!  We never got to the upstairs!  The buyers backed out just on the lower level and we only saw this room and the furnace room, which was its own very fun mess!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

And this is why we always recommend home inspections! 

 

Posted by Erica Ramus, MRE, Schuylkill County PA Real Estate (Erica Ramus - Ramus Realty Group - Pottsville, PA ) over 6 years ago

Oooooh, that's why!  Thanks Erica!   ;>)

This house was a disaster and my clients ran like the Money Python troop from the attack rabbit.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Whew! That is some crazy setup. Thanks for pointing out the dangers. Obviously, the agent didn't know what a hazard this is.

Posted by Pamela Seley, Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA (West Coast Realty Division) over 6 years ago

Jay -- I was wondering where the dryer vented to, and if it had a screened lid on the end?

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) over 6 years ago

That was comical.  It won't be when the house burns down from all these unsafe electrical connections and jerry rigging!

Posted by Jennifer Chiongbian, Real Estate Broker - NYC (Specializing in all types of Manhattan apts & townhouses) over 6 years ago

Good evening, Jay. It is amazing what we find, isn't it? Always on the look-out for stupid stuff...

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) over 6 years ago

How do you conveniently move something anyway? Even though your tongue in cheek post is written to point out a terrible situation, it is also funny because the phrase itself (that was used by the agent) really does not even make any sense.

Posted by Melissa Zavala, Broker, Escondido Real Estate, San Diego County (Broadpoint Properties) over 6 years ago

Jay, I tried to leave a message earlier but I think the AR aliens high-jacked me again. I love the side vent that works so much better that way. Horizontal P traps are highly over rated ; ) Also at least they knew they needed a vent.

Posted by Donald Hester, NCW Home Inspections, LLC (NCW Home Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jay - very cute...we have all seen homes like this...  it amazes me.. people think they are so smart no one will notice... I have been showing clients homes ina an area where everyone fancies themselves a contractor.. so 't wait..

Posted by Gay E. Rosen, As Real as Real Estate Gets! (Julia B. Fee Sotheby's International Realty) over 6 years ago

Jay - Now I think I have seen it all.   I really like that receptacle, now that is inovative.    I did see a house one time that the drain for the washing machine was plugged up so they just punched a hole in the wall and drained it right onto the front yard lawn.  

Posted by Jim Patton, Realtor - Stanislaus & Merced county Realtor. (Century 21 M&M - 209-404-0816) over 6 years ago

Jay, how could those buyers even get as far as the inspection? Someone should have seen that stuff before they prepared the contract. Where was their agent?

Posted by Ed Silva, Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally (RE/MAX Professionals, CT 203-206-0754 ) over 6 years ago

Jay -- That's a hot mess. You just can't make this stuff up.

Posted by Barbara Altieri, REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale (RealtyQuest/Kinard Realty Group, Fairfield and New Haven County CT Real Estate) over 6 years ago

Would not occur to anyone here to put appliances in the chilly north ...in the garage...and hopefully few would arrange them as "artfully" in the basement !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) over 6 years ago

Perhaps if they don't sell, they are hoping the place burns down and then the can rebuild with a REAL utility room in the house. Hopefully not, but you never know what people are thinking...

Posted by Sonja Patterson, Texas Monthly 5-Star Realtor Recipient for the Hou (Keller Williams - BV) over 6 years ago

Jay

Well this looks and sounds like some pretty creative, and scary, remodeling. You just have to shake your head in amazement. THis would have to make most buyers pretty antsy.

Jeff

Posted by Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude - Carlsbad (Solutions Real Estate ) over 6 years ago

Yikes, file that under WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? I swear we see so many bad DIY ideas out there don't we?

Posted by Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor, ePRO, CRS, RCS-D, & Host of Postcards From Success Podcast (Big Block Realty 858.232.8722) over 6 years ago

Pamela - there were so many things, that agent would not have known where to begin.

Steven - under the deck.  I could not get to it, there was no access.  What I could see looked incredibly clogged.

Jennifer - I said on my report that the panel box needed to be looked at immediately by an electrician, that it was dangerous.

Michael - this house was a joke after a joke after a joke.  To top it off, the box was FPE and a completely dangerous disaster.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Melissa - some time ago somebody thought it best to wall up the indoor access to the garage.  To get to the laundry room one had to go outdoors and into the garage from another side door.  So now, to have a laundry room inside was more "convenient."

Don - I really think the drainage was clever, from the one into the other.  And obviously the aliens blocked you.  This trap is UNDER rated, they think!  Well, so say the abductees...

Gay - somebody works for a construction company and they think they know everything.  It is amazing.

Jim - we will NEVER see it all!  Just when I think I have, I am surprised yet again.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Ed - because to look at the house, it was a silk purse.  In reality it was something more piggish...

Barbara - and I didn't!  We did not go much further than that room.  They buyers ran.

S&D - "chilly" north?  You are right, the way things were in that garage, the former laundry room, I am surprised it had not frozen here!

Sonja - I hope that is not in the plans!  But the panel box in the house is certainly a grave danger.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Jeff - the buyers were, and able to carry many times their weight as they ran from this property.

Thomas - they were thinking they had moved a laundry room into the house!  I think...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

I would have thought that this would be something that the owners and agent would want to hide - not showcase!

Thanks for the entertainment today Jay!

Posted by Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366, General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage (Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366) over 6 years ago

What can I say Tom?  Foreign sellers, foreign agent, foreign agency...  They had no idea obviously.  Let's just say we don't do things that way here.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Hi Jay...well at least they showed some creativity:)

Posted by Cheryl Thomson, REALTOR, U.S Army-Veteran, Real Estate in Northern Virginia (Jobin Realty (703.216.5635) cheryltee47@gmail.com) over 6 years ago

Until it is time to sell...it works very well.....Now a days you can shine a light anywhere and things turn up 

Posted by Richie Alan Naggar, agent & author (people first...then business Ran Right Realty ) over 6 years ago

Just to hit the not so obvious: A bedroom with a 6' opening without a door right off the entry? Not a bedroom. I wonder if it was listed in MLS as a bedroom or optional bedroom........

Posted by Than Maynard, Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862 (Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma) over 6 years ago

They sure did Cheryl, perhaps a bit too much!

I agree with that Richie.  If you want to live that way have a good time, but don't try to sell it to someone else!

Than - I don't know, but you are right, not a bedroom.  It was being used as one though!  And it stunk!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Thanks for the entertainment today, well written funny and a lesson to be learned.  Did the house sell, and did the sellers have to fix it first?

Posted by Bob Crane, Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671 (Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams fox cities) over 6 years ago

At least there was a vent.  I had one last week that didn't have a single plumbing vent through the roof anywhere.

Posted by Loren Green, Phoenix Home Inspector & Designer (Greens Home Design L.L.C.) over 6 years ago

I have seen agents tout similar things in the MLS. I often think, "What is wrong with this agent?"

Posted by Tammie White, Broker, Franklin TN Homes for Sale (Franklin Homes Realty LLC) over 6 years ago

Bob - my clients decided not to buy the house before we even went upstairs!

Loren - yummie!  Ending in the attic, or no vents at all?

Tammie -

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

Your posts are always a good read with one raised eybrow ;-)

Sometimes a good belly laugh and usually a "Really?!" and then thinking "Did I do that?"

 

Posted by Brian Schulte, SFR, Sierra Vista, AZ (Allison James Estates & Homes) over 6 years ago

Thanks Brian.  This house was a definite Erckle, "did I do that???"

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 6 years ago

The utility definately didn't end in the attic, because it never started.  There was no access to the attic to tell if there were vents into the attic.  It was a very unfinished remodel.

Posted by Loren Green, Phoenix Home Inspector & Designer (Greens Home Design L.L.C.) about 6 years ago

Sounds like an excellent place to stay away from Loren!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 6 years ago

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