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Adding Always Gets To A Sum Total

There are times when you pull up to a house and know there will be problems.  And the problems can be predicted in advance of seeing everything.  It's easy to begin because adding always gets to a sum total.

 

 

One half of a roof surface   PLUS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 One little downspout, come apart, draining at the front corner  PLUS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 A conveniently, eroded hole, about the middle of the house  EQUALS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 A REALLY, REALLY SMELLY, WET ROOM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE!

 

Yes, we had to move some exercise equipment to see the extent of the moisture.

Yes, we did notice the moisture smell as soon as we opened the basement door to go downstairs.

Yes, I did have my thermal camera with me, asked in advance of the inspection to bring it!

Put the two images together in your mind to  try to see the extent of the moisture in the room.

Interestingly, this was the only room affected.

There must be something going on in the foundation wall beside this room.  Water appears to be getting inside only here.

That access panel on the wall is to the plumbing for the bathroom.

In that bathroom is a plastic shower surround, so the wall in the bathroom is not visible to the thermal camera. 

Certainly there is some moisture there too, but there is NO odor.

The room in the thermal image is the only room with such moisture, which registered 100%.  And it has been happening for some time!

My recommendation:  the roof surface represents a lot of square footage of rain water.  This is a large house, and for only one downspout to have been put to handle half of that roof's rain water, and draining it right beside the front corner, is a recipe for disaster.  It is very poor planning on the part of the builder, and roofer, who designed the gutter system.  ANY time you have a downspout draining beside a house, it is best to extend it outward to discharge its water into a swale or hill beside the house.  Burying the extension tube is often the best way to handle it.

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 24 commentsJay Markanich • October 30 2011 04:29AM

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Good morning, Jay. Sum times, folks need to walk around their property to see what is going on. But they don't...

Posted by Michael Thornton, Nashville Area - Photography & Videography (RadnorLake Video) almost 7 years ago

Apparently not Michael.  And look, they have pads under the antique bureau because they don't want the wet to damage it!

And geez, it's Sunday!  Go to bed!

Actually I'm kind of glad you're up...  nice to see you!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Great shots. I love those cameras! Yes, and sum times the sum total is too much and the buyers will just have to walk away!

Posted by Diane Grady (Endless Summer Realty) almost 7 years ago

They do help to add up the sum Diane.  I don't know what the result of this find will be.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Hi Jay,

Looks like the seller has a few issues that need to be resolved.

Nice find. Stay out of the snow. Has it hit you yet?

Have a good day in Va.

Best, Clint McKie

Posted by Clint Mckie, Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586 (Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections) almost 7 years ago

Thanks Clint.  Don't listen to the news.  It is hardly ever correct!  We got about 11 flakes.  Very overblown, but then, nobody watches the news unless they make you think there is a reason.

In this case, there was no reason!

I will if you promise to have a good day in NM!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Good morning Jay.

This is a great post...You are the person to turn to when it comes to an inspection...

Great work.

Posted by Joshua Zargari, MJ Decorators Workshop (MJ Decorators Workshop LI staging and home decorating) almost 7 years ago

Thanks Joshua!  And, can I say, good morning!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

What a mess. and, so easily preventable.  BTW, do you know that you are posting your blogs originally at DeeDee's outside blog and not your own?  I'm betting this is a collaborative blog.  There seems to be an issue w/ this that AR still has not fixed.  I discovered this w/ Steve while at Raincamp, but they still have not fixed.  I've now stopped doing collaborive blogs until they fix and resaved my old ones so they were posted on my site.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) almost 7 years ago

Debbie - I did not know that!  What should I do instead - drop DeeDee's check from my posting info?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Well I did not know what Debbie has commented on.  I didn't know you could do that I'll need to look into it.  Goes to show you, you learn something every day on the rain

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty AR LLC) almost 7 years ago

Me too James!  And thanks for stopping by, as usual.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

I am always amazed how folks don't pay no attention to their home. Today we are enjoying our 8 inches of snow.

Posted by Joe Petrowsky, Your Mortgage Consultant for Life (Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709) almost 7 years ago

Thanks for the  great tips. Buyers should hire a good inspector when buying a home.

Posted by Gita Bantwal, REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel (RE/MAX Centre Realtors) almost 7 years ago

Enjoy Joe!  And water do what water do.

Gita - all the time!  And without delay or price compunction!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Ewww
Ewww...the nose Knows....and so do you !

 

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) almost 7 years ago

I also bet the the gutter and down spout were standard size. I rarely see an over sized gutter or down spout. Instead I see overflow stains. Reminds me of a little bird, cheep. 

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) almost 7 years ago

S&D - walking into the house I knew!  But it really was evident when the basement door was opened!

Jim - that SUMS it up.  From the looks of it, that downspout has been disconnected for a couple of days...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Good afternoon Jay. I don't think the average person realizes just how much water comes off a roof in a hard rain and once the ground has absorbed it they think it's gone. See a lot of moisture damage in finished basements and often it starts with eave troubles.

Posted by Randy Ostrander, Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI (Lake and Lodge Realty LLC ) almost 7 years ago

Randy - one inch of rain drops one gallon of water for every 2 sq feet!  In this case that would be about 750 gallons down that one downspout per inch of rain.  Is bunch is.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Jay, I am getting much better at noticing areas of potential concern based on a quick outside inspection... I am learning from great teachers on AR!

Posted by Chris Smith, South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta (Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage) almost 7 years ago

Great Chris!  There is a lot of learning going on at AR.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

Jay -- But the facade is so nice, who wants to mess it up with multiple downspouts?  Once again you have seen the potential problem from the outside before going inside.  Interesting that there was no problem on the other side of the house.

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) almost 7 years ago

Steven - there was settlement on the other side, but that was an edge of the house right at the slab level and there was slope enough to carry the water away.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 7 years ago

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