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Hide 'N Go Seek Hose Bib

There are times I walk around the house and have to play with the hide 'n go seek hose bib.  I can't find them!

Such as this house. Do you see a hose bib?

Is the deck covering it up?

The deck is kind of high, apparently built to allow easy access to the hot tub.

That's fine.  But where's the hose bib?

My least favorite hose bib in these situations is the one that is 18" below the level of the deck and there's a little trap door built into the deck so you can "get to it."

But on this deck there wasn't even the little trap door!

Looking under the deck the hose bib wasn't there.

Did they remove it when the deck got installed?  I see that from time to time too.  I don't think that's a good idea because most people really need a hose bib in the rear, but I see it.

Allie, allie in come free!

I found it!

It's in the little cabinet they built on the wall to hid the electric meter and boxes exposed on the wall in the back.

A couple of things:

  • There is a new fuse box over the bib.  A new AC compressor was installed a little over a year ago.  Hence the new box. 
  • This new box makes it very hard to use the hose!  That's a new bib, with a lever handle.  To turn on the water that handle needs to extend perpendicular from the house.  But the cable is in the way.
  • That box contains live electrical connections!  Ummm.
  • I suspect the new AC system required a different kind of fuse than was contained in the old fuse box used by the old system.  So, obediently, they put in the proper fuse required by the manufacturer.  This is excellent.  But they left the old box in place!  Why not remove that box and replace it with the old?  Too much work probably.  See how they sent the new cable from the box to the panel box by using the main service cable chase?  Easy peasy...  Much easier than removing the old box.
  • They could have removed the old box, and cutting the cables, simply using the old box's location and running the new cable the way they did here for the new box.  At least then it would not be blocking the hose bib!  It's still near the hose and it is still electrical, but all of these boxes have been in this position for a long time, so the original installation was obviously approved by the county.  I would prefer the hose bib to be further away, but that is what was allowed.

New meet old!  The new boss is more difficult than the old boss!

My recommendation:  when things don't look right, or typical, check them out!  See what was done.  Sometimes things were done for a reason.  And sometimes they were done just for convenience.

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 25 commentsJay Markanich • October 02 2011 07:44AM

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Good morning, Jay. Like they say in the "Good Book"; "Seek and Ye shall find...". Glad you found it along with a bunch of other no, no's...

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 9 years ago

Jay, great job and I did not know what I was looking at and appreciated the write up and explanation so I could see the "old" and "new" mismatch!

Posted by Kathy Toth, Ann Arbor Real Estate Experts - Kathy Toth Team (Ann Arbor Market Center Keller Williams) almost 9 years ago

Just hope the hose bib never needs repair.

Never say never.

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) almost 9 years ago

Good morning Jay.  Looks like you are the champion of hide and go seek.

Posted by Kenneth Cole, NYS Licensed Real Estate Salesperson (Weichert Realtors Appleseed Group, 2043 Richmond Ave. S.I.N.Y. 10314. office phone 718-698-9797, Appleseedhomes.com -) almost 9 years ago

Good morning Jay. Lets hope the hose bib doesn't start leaking inside with all that electrical enclosed in there with it.

Posted by Randy Ostrander, Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI (Lake and Lodge Realty LLC ) almost 9 years ago

Man that looks like a mess! When does the light bulb go off that all that electrical and water on top of each other probably isn't a good idea?

Posted by Marco Giancola, Realtor (305)608-1922, Miami Beach Florida (Beachfront Realty) almost 9 years ago

Michael - I sought, found and was a bit entertained!

Kathy - HVAC installers are famous, or infamous as the case may be, for such creative installations!

Lenn - like they say, bummer.  It is important to think ahead.  Kind of like leading a flying clay pigeon.

Ken - that and Kick The Can!  There was a vacant lot near my house growing up that we put to good use.  I revert to remembering those games all the time!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Randy - or spraying all around!  But, as I said, the location was approved and it has been there a while.  Nevertheless, I don't really like it.

Marco - for some people after the fact!  When the problem sparks an interest in the installation!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Convenience trumped correctness in this instance. Funny what yo run into in instances where you don't expect any surprises. Attention to detail is key. Enjoy your day!

Posted by Wayne Martin, Real Estate Broker - Retired (Wayne M Martin) almost 9 years ago

Wayne - for sure convenience usually wins!  And often at the expense of the job.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

C'mon, we both know what wins out most of the time. When the choices are the right way or the easy way, easy almost always wins.

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Yicks...ya think they would have put them where they would use them....while lots of homes here have in ground sprinklers, the bibs are handy for the new growth watering....we put them on all four corners of our house...in plain sight...imagine that...didn't occur to us to hide them...

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) almost 9 years ago

Easy do win Jim.  Easy do win.  At the expense of common sense, or, to use your words, good sense.

S&D - which would you prefer, that or getting on your belly and reaching down 18"?  I'm kidding of course.  I actually created a new hose bib altogether for my high deck, with a pipe that 90 degree's off my other hose bib line inside the house to go out through the wall and up to the deck for plants and such.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Good morning Jay,

I always enjoy your posts...you never fail to provide a fun poke at the ridiculous.  A great illustration as to the importance of a professional home inspection.  Thanks for sharing, have a lovely Sunday!

Posted by Lisa Von Domek, ....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless! (Lisa Von Domek Team) almost 9 years ago

Thank you Lisa!  I try to poke at some instruction too!  And I'm very glad you enjoy the posts so much!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Jay, this is Jay right ?

If they removed the old box on every job they did then the poor guys that pick up those recycling bins would have to work harder. Smart thinking.

Glad you enjoyed your game of Marco....Polo

Enjoy the day

Posted by Don MacLean, Realtor-Homes for Sale- Easton Mass (New England Real Estate Center Inc.) almost 9 years ago

Yes, Don, it is.

But they might be able to recycle it on another job!  They do that with old compressors!

Polo...

Very kindly,

Mr. Jay, of Mr. Jay's Neighborhood

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

The nice new steps look pretty messed up as well

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 9 years ago

That's the next post Mr. Buell!  You should see the underside!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Did you ever notice how we seem to be faced more often with how the "experts" do things wrong as opposed to experiencing the joy of being shown what a job well done looks like?

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 9 years ago

That, my buddy, is the point of my post many moons ago called "A Golden Rule Business."  I agree!

I liked that one so much, I published it also on my website!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Jay -- I am surprised the homeowner didn't complain about not being able to use his hose.  Good thing it doesn't freeze there very often.

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) almost 9 years ago

What?  We have to winterize our hose bibs every winter Steven.  The valve is on the inside and I showed them both to the buyer.  But still, you have to take the hose off and open the valve outside!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

Don't you just love combined water and electrical components. Why not just put a tap in the electrical panel!

Am I being sarcastic. Just a bit!

Where or how far apart should they be?

Well... if you stretched out your arms as far as you can.... I'd be good with that.

Posted by Robert Butler, Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection (Aspect Inspection) almost 9 years ago

That's probably a good distance Robert.  Obviously these boxes are made for the outdoor elements but why put something right there?  And so difficult to operate the hose?

As we said when kids, doopid.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 9 years ago

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