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Flipper Fodder 1 - A Hose With A View

I can usually tell when a house is a flipped property.  In this case it was the "jewel" in the crown of this particular townhouse neighborhood.

Well, a jewel until you have a look, that is.

I have so much fun with flippers that I thought I'd start a series called FLIPPER FODDER!  And the series begins with today's post - Flipper Fodder - A Hose With A View.

In this neighborhood all of the houses have a shed protruding from the back.  It is 4'x8' or so, and contains the electric panel box and room for garden things.

Looking over the back fence I saw that Flipper had extended the shed all along the rear of the house, and created a room!  How fun is this inspection going to be!!  So now we have a room beside the old shed, probably 16'x6'!  With a beaten up storm door.

As I approached the wall I noticed this wonderful hose bib!

What better way to water the back yard with a fan-tail spray of water! 

When turned on high I bet it reaches to the rear fence!  It was dry though, so I couldn't test it.  But I could hardly wait!

What a special idea!

This Flipper is a thinker!

Perhaps you see the hint here as to the very special paint job!

The entirety of the rear wall of this house, everything, was spray painted!

Yes, the siding, window (but all the paint on the glass was scraped off, well, almost all), electric meter (but all the paint on the glass was scoured off with a Brillo pad, well, almost all), telephone, cable box, AC compressor, everything!

And how many of YOU have the stylish color-coordination of house and AC compressor?  That's right, not many I suspect.  YOU people need to get with the times!  Be at the beginning of the wave, not a mere rider thereof!

Excitedly writing down the three dozen or so problems with the rear of the house, I moved into the special rear room. 

In this neighborhood it was probably rented out as a bedroom!  Hence the beaten-up storm door. 

You know, private entrance, expansive bathroom (the rear yard), one receptacle in the wall and a light fixture turned on from inside the house.  And a walk-in closet!  What more could you want when you rent a bedroom?

Going into the walk-in closet, I mean, former shed to see the panel box, my hose bib hopes were dashed when I saw this.  The hose was never hooked up!

BUMMER!  Flipper tried though.  He had run a poly-butylene tube to the copper end, but apparently could not figure out how to marry them.  How unfortunate is that?  At least he used the very best product he could find.

Then I remembered.  On these houses the hose bibs were located on the rear wall of the house, and NOT the shed.  Why not?  Because outside in the shed the pipe would be very vulnerable to freezing.

I wondered where the hose bib could be?  Did Flipper forget it?

No, no he didn't!  Silly, silly me!

It's still where it used to be!  On the outside of the house, beside the shed!

NOW IT'S ON THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.

BESIDE THE GAS METER!

Now that extra layer of drywall on what used to be the outside of the house makes it a bit difficult to turn the knob. 

And there is no heating or air conditioning to the room (Flipper couldn't figure that one out either).

And there's only about 4" of insulation over the ceiling, which I could see from the walk-in closet, I mean, former shed.

But this is one special room!

Wait a minute?  The gas meter is INSIDE the house now?  Can you do that?  Well, Flipper has proved that you can.  But should you do that?  Is it permitted?  Was any of this work done with a permit?  Does the Fire Marshall know about this?

I had all kinds of notes already for what was to be an epic report and I hadn't even gotten inside the house!!

Flipper Fodder needs a theme song.  I have come up with one.  You recognize it.  Now sing along...

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
Stuck in the middle with you!

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My recommendation:  when you look at a flipped property, you probably won't need a home inspector to see how silly the house is.  But please, please call one!  Some people think I make this stuff up!  And I don't!  So please call a home inspector so he can have as much fun as I.

Thank you for your service!

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 33 commentsJay Markanich • August 17 2011 06:24AM

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Jay -- a definite "Yikes!" moment!   The wonders of some renovated properties never ceases to amaze.   

Posted by Michael Jacobs, Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393 about 9 years ago

They are fun Michael!  The problem is that after the fun, and the buyers leave with wide, deer-in-the-headlight eyes, I still have to do the report!  Now THAT'S a big yikes!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

Jay, how exciting! You are privy to the lastest and greatest when most of us just get to read about it. You are actually right in the middle of cutting edge house renovating technology. Now quit yer whining!!!!

:D

Posted by Andrea Swiedler, Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties) about 9 years ago

Smart series to start.  Sounds like you really have a blast picking about these flipped houses.  I do wonder how often this feedback is conveyed back to the flipper.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) about 9 years ago

And proud I am to bring it to light Andrea!

Debbie - who knows.  But I have heard of a flipper in the area really mad at me.  I think he's mad because of my reports and what he is forced to do to sell the house.  I bet he hasn't heard about my blogs!

So, which do you like better - Flipper Fodder or Mr. Jay's Neighborhood?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

Jay -- I definitely like Flipper Fodder for this series.  Mr. Jay's Neighborhood could be a more location centric series of posts.  

Posted by Michael Jacobs, Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393 about 9 years ago

You may not have seen any of those posts Michael.  Here is an example of one:

http://activerain.com/blogsview/2019273/mr-jay-s-neighborhood-meet-flipper-

Mr. Jay's image actually appears on the Lotsa Nuts! can.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

I can usually tell a flipper by their cute nose and friendly chatter. Feed them a fish, they like that.

You must have been chucking the whole inspection. Isn't this job fun?! I do love it!

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) about 9 years ago

Jim - I tried not to.  The clients were at my side!  But is this a first or what?  A gas meter inside the house!  How often have you seen that?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

Good morning, Jay....your posts are soooo funny....thanks for the morning chuckle....what are people thinking when they do these things....

Posted by Barbara Todaro, Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team (RE/MAX Executive Realty - Retired ) about 9 years ago

Barbara - I think they think it will help sell the house!  I think they think it is good work!  I think they think they know what they're doing.  I think they don't think...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

You're right Jay --- it's my first time visiting this series so I'll check out the link .... I subscribed so I will not a miss anymore of the adventures and discovery.  

Posted by Michael Jacobs, Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393 about 9 years ago

Oh my, Jay!  I've NEVER seen someone enclose the hose bib and the gas meter into the house.  I think not only is that not wise, but certainly not safe!

Do you notify the local municipality in a situation like this?  Or is that out of your hands?  I would think with the gas meter being in the house, the gas company would certainly be upset.  And couldn't this be a potential explosion risk?

Posted by Jeremy Wrenn, C.O.O., Winslow Homes (Winslow Homes) about 9 years ago

Enjoy Michael!  Thanks for subscribing!

Jeremy - it is unsafe!  The agent is contacting the county, after she does a bit of negotiating.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

Ok, glad someone will contact the county on that.  I was thinking that couldn't be safe!

Posted by Jeremy Wrenn, C.O.O., Winslow Homes (Winslow Homes) about 9 years ago

Jay, that first picture simply appears to be a water fountain---no? :)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) about 9 years ago

They will.  There are other things going on not mentioned here Jeremy.

Charlie - a very zen water fountain!  You are right.  And how pretty too!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

I though that first picture might be upside down. Then the hose bib would be OK and you'd be all wet. But then that would mean the siding is upside down too. 

Is that possible? Ordinarily I would have said no, but the creative stuff you've shown us means 'don't be surprised' in a flipper reno.

Posted by Robert Butler, Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection (Aspect Inspection) about 9 years ago

So Jay, if the relief on the gas meter vents, does a fan in the ceiling automatically come on to suck the gas out, just curious.

Oh the sillcock is perfect for a outside fountain.  When your playing in the back yard you can get a cool drink from the faucet then right back to the games.

By the way, I like flipper fodder too.

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) about 9 years ago

I see that flipper color coordinated the hose bib as well - so it wouldn't be too intrusive.  I'm almost surprised that he didn't paint the Gas meter and its pipes as well!

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) about 9 years ago

Robert - I haven't run across upside down siding yet, but when I do you guys will be the first to know!

Jack - vent?  That thing vents?  Can't you just hear him saying that?  These guys are a riot.

By the way, is my room ready yet?

All coordinated outside Steven.  He was less creative inside!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

I love what to some seem like sound ideas and to the rest of us who are awake are having wth moments. Another gem Jay.

Posted by Randy Ostrander, Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI (Lake and Lodge Realty LLC ) about 9 years ago

Thanks Randy.  I try to post the best ones!  A regular gemologist!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

I have seen lots of gas meters inside the house. In fact in the very house I grew up in. Years ago the gas company moved them all outside the house. Can't imagine why ;). i still occasionally find an old meter still in the basement. gas meterHere's one in a basement from last week.

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) about 9 years ago

Jay - While I've seen a few gas meters inside houses, I've never seen on in a home built in the last 50 years.  Wonder why that might be.  Wonder what the gas company thinks about that.  And I know what the county inspector would say.  But at least it would be convenient on a cold/rainy day if you needed to turn off the gas.

Posted by John Mulkey, Housing Guru (TheHousingGuru.com) about 9 years ago

I did too Jim.  But the one you picture there doesn't have the vent on it and the main gas valve is likely outside the house.  This meter was intended to be outside the house.  And the meter can't be read from the window!

John - those are different meters than this one.  And when they are inside they need to be read!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

Jay,

With some of these flippers, if it was not against the law to beat them up, then they ought to be.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham WA Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc.) about 9 years ago

Jay, Flipper Fodder - Love that title! Threre are so many illegal things here.... In SF the Gas Meter would need to be enclosed in an air tight box if inside. And now we have new 'SmartMeters'. The don't need to be read in person, they transmit the info to the utility co using cell phone technology.  

Posted by John M. Scott, Broker / Owner San Francisco Bay Area (BRE # 01442690, Scott Keys Properties) about 9 years ago

I would thank you to send over that big, muscled squirrel Steve.  The one with the T-shirt.

John - in my house growing up the gas meter was in the same little closet as the fuse box!  And there was always a gas odor in there.  But those were different meters and the company had the ability to turn off the gas to the house from the street.  They have those radio meters around here too.  They are getting replaced one at a time though, and usually on new construction.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

Jay - Thanks for the ongoing review of new home design features. I must admit most are cutting edge & never before seen. I can't wait for the future editions!
Bruce

Posted by Bruce Kunz, REALTOR®, Brick & Howell NJ Homes for Sale (C21 Solid Gold Realty, Brick, NJ, 732-920-2100) about 9 years ago

This is truly some creative thinking Bruce!  I deal with flippers so much, I will have plenty of future fodder.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

Jay, it is amazing how far off track you can go when you move forward looking no further than your nose.

Posted by Chris Smith, South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta (Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage) about 9 years ago

It is Chris!  This guy was off track in many regards too!                                                                     

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 9 years ago

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