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I Am Inclined Toward A Different Bathroom

Sometimes people desperately want something in a spot that just might not be the best place for it.  and basement bathrooms are something that people sometimes desperately want!  At times the basement is arranged such that there is only one place you can even consider for a bathroom.

Take this space for instance.

This bathroom divides the basement into two areas.

But where oh where can the toilet be put?

How about this cute little area right under the stairs! 

The rest of the bathroom is just as fun.  It is so narrow that when standing at the sink and closing the door, there is barely room for ones, um, backside.

And the very fun shower is smaller than on a cruise ship!

I am inclined toward a different bathroom.

Oh, the photo isn't giving you an idea as to the height over the toilet?

Does this help?

My feet are a long way from that there toilet!  That puts the rest of me a long way from that there toilet too!

Gee, visitors better have good aim!  Well, boy visitors  anyway...

And for anyone who sits down, well, head's up when you stand up!

But don't put your head up too high.

Oh, and there is a vent.  It's on the wall just above the toilet! 

And it's plastic tube connects at a perfect right angle into the plastic dryer vent tube just on the other side of that wall.  And despite that perfect angle, thank goodness for duct tape to control a little bit of the resulting air leakage!

My recommendation:  sellers sometimes think that because they bought something the way you find it, that makes it okay.  These sellers were told that a permit was pulled to install this bathroom.  That's funny because the County didn't know there was a permit pulled, and couldn't have been due to the space restrictions here.

When something doesn't look right, it pays to check for yourself if something was done with a permit or not.  While you may accept that funny-looking thing when you buy the house, one day you will sell it and your buyer may not!

 

 

 

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 26 commentsJay Markanich • May 29 2011 06:30AM

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Thank you for the advice. People should check for permits when they buy a house .

Posted by Gita Bantwal, REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel (RE/MAX Centre Realtors) about 7 years ago

Jay ~  Just one more reason to hire a "you" as part of any transaction.

Posted by Tish Lloyd, Broker - Wilmington NC and Surrounding Beaches (BlueCoast Realty Corporation) about 7 years ago

Wow, that is a height constrained and tight bathroom.  I guess it coul work for people like me, but not my guests.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) about 7 years ago

Good morning, Jay. Maybe that was supposed to be a "sit down" facility only. Silly inspector... 

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) about 7 years ago

Jay: not a good bathroom for the claustrophic> I am short, but that is rediculous.

Posted by Anne M. Costello (Weidel Realtors) about 7 years ago

Jay, Seems so impractical as to be totally useless.  It like the folks trying to advertise that basement "bedroom" with no egress.

Posted by Liz and Bill Spear, RE/MAX Elite Warren County OH (Cincinnati/Dayton) (RE/MAX Elite 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com) about 7 years ago

Where I live it is a college town and it amazes me how many closets have toilets in them. No way you could have the door shut while in use. Yikes. Better have the right roomies.

Posted by Randy Ostrander, Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI (Lake and Lodge Realty LLC ) about 7 years ago

Maybe it was built for small folks.  6 footers need not enter!

Posted by Kenneth Cole, NYS Licensed Real Estate Salesperson (Weichert Realtors Appleseed Group, 2043 Richmond Ave. S.I.N.Y. 10314. office phone 718-698-9797, Appleseedhomes.com -) about 7 years ago

Okay, I'll say it... what a "piss-poor" attempt at a bathroom. Amazes me when I find these, as it is usually not very difficult to do it right the first time.

Posted by Jeffrey Jonas- Minnesota Home Inspector (Critical Eye Property Inspections / JRJ Consultants) about 7 years ago

When I first saw this post, I glanced at the photo and know that I have seen it before. This is exactly what my brother-in-laws bathroom looks like. It is one of the original bathrooms (not an addition) in a community build in 2002-ish, with permits. Maybe it is legal. I don't know but it is very inconvenient to stand there.

Thanks for the post Jay.

Posted by Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366, General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage (Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366) about 7 years ago

This reminds me of a townhouse my husband and I had in Centreville.  After we sold it, and the buyers lost it to foreclosure, I poppped in to see what it looked like three years later.  They took a perfectly roomy half bathroom in the basement and jammed a shower stall in there.  It was so tight.

Posted by Chris Ann Cleland, Associate Broker, Bristow, VA (Long and Foster REALTORS®, Gainesville, VA) about 7 years ago

Gita - not having a permit can have insurance implications also!

Tish - this wasn't too hard to find!  And kind of silly, when you see it in person!

Debbie - even you would be too short for this spot!  Not sitting down that is...

And you have to squat to back in and back out Michael!  I don't know about you, but I have lousy aim when I am hunched over.  Too much info?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Anne - if you are claustrophobic, you would have been very much so in this bathroom!

Bliz - see'em all the time!  And I have to explain why they are not a bedroom.  Certainly people can use them as a bedroom, just not sell them as such.

Randy - even with the right roomies, this would have been a fun bathroom!

And them only Ken!  Maybe they had a day care center down there!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Jeff - they could have moved the whole bathroom over a foot, or increased its width by that.

Could be legal there Tom, but not here!

Chris Ann - I'm sure they did it with a permit!  Same jurisdiction as this house!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Thanks for the mental picture Jay... Not ;-)

Not thinking a project through before starting is something very common by home handymen.  I wouldn't want to be the one cleaning this washroom regularly...

Posted by Chris Smith, South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta (Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage) about 7 years ago

Jay - Perhaps that's where "head," the nautical term for a bathroom originated; it's a warning to enter with caution.  With the tight quarters on most boats--at least the ones I can afford--you have to be somewhat of a contortionist to make use of it.

Posted by John Mulkey, Housing Guru (TheHousingGuru.com) about 7 years ago

You are right Chris.  My position is kind of PG-13.  Can you imagine the thinking, "Well, it's low, but I get we can put the toilet here..."

John - I guess so!  I know submarines are tight quarters also!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Jay, did you check the height of the owners.  Maybe your just to tall.  

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) about 7 years ago

Jay, TOO FUNNY!  We don't have basements here so won't see that problem but oh my we have plenty of others.  Permits however is not one of them we live in unincorporated Harris County and do not have zoning so we are talking free for all.  Amazingly though our builders do a decent job although I'm sure you home inspectors have played a HUGE part in that.

Posted by Marchel Peterson, Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro (Results Realty) about 7 years ago

Jack - Young Miss Mickey would be too tall!  I am 6', if it gives you an idea of what I am leaning against!

Marchel - that sounds like a free for all!  Glad to hear the inspectors out there have made a difference!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Sounds like the sellers failed to do their due diligence before buying. Unless the house is brand new, a buyer should go down to the building department and check for permits. As we well know much of the work done in homes is not permitted or inspected.

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) about 7 years ago

There was so much wrong in that basement that they didn't have to Jim!  But did, and behold, no permit...  And the listing agent got very defensive and actually said she would never use me!  Ummmm....

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Jay, I am speechless except: good luck to all users! Yikes!

I just ran into a similar situation about "previous owner said he had a permit but the town has NO record of it... here comes headache". Not fun!

Posted by Lydie Ouellet Dickinson, Realtor (Realty Executives Tri County, Bellingham MA) about 7 years ago

All you have to ask is that they produce it Lydie!  When they can't, they can't.  They could get it emailed to them in a minute from the jurisdiction, if it exists...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

I usually like to blame poor design on a man, but this one looks as though they were not thinking at all about anyone standing by that toilet, over the age of 4 at least.

Posted by Coral Gundlach, Real Lives. Not Just Real Estate. (Compass) about 7 years ago

This is the Munchkin Land bathroom Coral.  Best guess anyway...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

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