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I FLIPPED Over This Master Bath Shower!

A recent inspection of a flip, as I call them, was loaded with fun.  Except for the many hours during the inspection of head pounding trying to figure out what is going on, and the boatload of tools necessary to do that, and the extensive verbiage and necessary syntax of the careful report writing to follow (which of itself requires many applications of ice to head and neck) - well, EXCEPT for all that, inspecting a flip is loaded with fun!

And I FLIPPED over this master bath shower!

The tile was done so the larger piece was toward the outside.
Very nice border.
Two different shower heads, one hand-held.
Attractive fixtures.
Great shampoo shelf.
Floor sloped toward the drain.
Drain properly sized (often that does not happen on a flip!)
Very nice lip on the floor to retain the water.

Sure, there was no shower door yet, but certainly that's in the plans.

HAVE YOU NOTICED YET?!

HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED?

 

 

 

 

<-------  Maybe this will give you an idea as to the scale of the size of the shower!  In the first picture I intentionally made it hard to tell!

IT IS SO SMALL YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND!

I walked into the bathroom and started laughing.  The Realtor wondered why I was laughing.  So I pointed it out!

This is another case of not planning ahead!  Just like the GFI buried behind a granite splash block, this is too classic to not share!

Is there room to make the shower area larger?  Ummmmm....

With glass doors installed I could barely get half of my big backside inside there!  Can you imagine the husband/wife exchange during the first shower? 

(Shouting) "Hoooneeey, can you wash my butt?  Thanks.  Oh, and while you're back there, can you get the rest'o'my backside?  I can't bend over.  Thanks.  Call me when it's your shower."

THE REASON FLIPPER DIDN'T PUT GLASS DOORS ON THERE WAS SO NOBODY WOULD NOTICE HOW SMALL THE SHOWER IS, IF THEY SHOULD HAPPEN TO STEP INSIDE!

How cool is this!?

And some poor schmoh is going to end up buying this joint.  Well, hopefully not my client!

Again, if what I can see is so silly, what's going on with what I can't see!!??

My recommendation:  sure, it looks pretty on the outside.  Be sure you hire a home inspector to peel back the layers of the, well, the ONION, to see what's in there...  For sure you'll need a breath mint when you're done!

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comment balloon 53 commentsJay Markanich • May 20 2011 05:38AM

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Hi Jay, Why go through the expense of the improvements if they are not going to suit you in an effective manner?

Good view and post.

Clint McKie

Posted by Clint Mckie, Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586 (Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections) about 7 years ago

Thanks Clint.  I don't remember ever seeing a nicer shower.  Really brings you up close with your partner...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Good morning, Jay. Flippers! Ya gotta luv 'em. They certainly keep us supplied with blog fodder, that's for sure...

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) about 7 years ago

Unlike your S trap, Michael, I would not be able to twist in this shower!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Jay, There you go assuming it's for PEOPLE!  It's just the right size for washing the family hamsters! :)

Posted by Liz and Bill Spear, RE/MAX Elite Warren County OH (Cincinnati/Dayton) (RE/MAX Elite 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com) about 7 years ago

Jay:  This shower reminds me of the kitchen remodels where you can't pull out a drawer all the way cause something else is blocking it.  Who knows until they purchase and try to use the "pretty thangs" in their new home?  Thanks for the great photos for proof.

Posted by Gwynn Carpenter, : Broker, Home & Hearth Realty (512)467-6191 (Gwynn Teal Carpenter-Broker: Home and Hearth Realty (Austin)) about 7 years ago

Bliz - they would work.  You can actually get your head in there, and a couple of hands, to be able to wash the little guys.

Gwynn - WAIT til you see the photos of the kitchen!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Hi Jay - Too funny.  Apparently the flipper was vertically challenged:)

Posted by Conrad Allen, Webster, Ma, Realtor (Re/Max Professional Associates) about 7 years ago

Jay, a similar strategy is used in staging new homes, with the use of slightly undersized furniture... it is so sneaky...

Posted by Chris Smith, South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta (Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage) about 7 years ago

Gee Jay, couldn't you just walk up to the Flipper and say "Super Size it Please"?

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Bob Timm, Broker Associate, Alliance Real Estate (Alliance Real Estate - Minot) about 7 years ago

Good Morning Jay, it is said they the building departments are allowing these types of designs.  What happened to 'plan review'?

Posted by Dan Edward Phillips, Humboldt and Del Norte Counties, CA (Dan Edward Phillips, Humboldt and Del Norte Counties, CA) about 7 years ago

Jay:  This is hilarious.  Yes, they did make it look lovely and the missing doors complete the trick.  I can see why you were laughing.

Posted by Valerie Zinger, Home Organizer (House Proud Ottawa-Ontario-Canada) about 7 years ago

So sad.  And, it looks like there would have been room to make it 3 x 3.  I have seen a few tiny showers in homes that I've gone to.  They do not look like they would be fun or relaxing to take a shower in.

Posted by Debbie Gartner, The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers (The Flooring Girl) about 7 years ago

Good morning Jay.  I guess your lessons are paying off.  I noticed the size right away.  I get an A+ today.

Posted by Kenneth Cole, NYS Licensed Real Estate Salesperson (Weichert Realtors Appleseed Group, 2043 Richmond Ave. S.I.N.Y. 10314. office phone 718-698-9797, Appleseedhomes.com -) about 7 years ago

I don't know it looks ok to me for a urinal. They could have sloped the entire floor to the drain and called the whole room a shower, plus accessories.

Posted by Robert Butler, Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection (Aspect Inspection) about 7 years ago

I did notice the shower right away, I count tiles for fun Jay.  :)

I have a problem with small showers personally. I shouldn't have to be a contortionist to stay clean. Hope there is a credit in the final agreement for a new shower.

Posted by Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366, General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage (Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366) about 7 years ago

Perhaps the flipper has been making so much money that he is now used to shipboard showers. ;-)   It was a neat trick to use large tiles on the wall and small on the floor to cause more of a distortion in the initial view.

Posted by Steven Cook (No Longer Processing Mortgages.) about 7 years ago

Jay,

So how did you get that shot of your feet and toes from that angle. Is that one of those remote control cameras.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham WA Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc.) about 7 years ago

Webster - I think he must be a 60 pound match stick!

Chris - this one is hard to hide!  It is really tiny!

Bob - that shower would have fit very well in the house behind you there.

Dan - the County has not seen this side of the construction.  But I had a continuing ed class the other day with three inspectors from this County and they are VERY interested in this house!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

I laughed Valerie, but the buyers did not see the humor I saw!  The realtor did though!

Debbie - there is not much more room there, but certainly a bit more to make it at least accommodating to one not large person.

Ken - you get an A+ when you don't get it right!  Are you kidding?

Now there's an idea that only an experienced inspector would come up with Robert!  That's called lemonade from the lemon!  You should call the guy!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

You are right Tom.  With glass there I could not have bent over!  This is silly small.

Steven - you think like I do!  To me he is trying to hide the smallness.

Steve - you know the drill.  Long arm, wide angle lense, low angle.  Do you like the nail color?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Jay - Really makes you question the intelligence or lack thereof of the flipper/designer.  Too bad for some homebuyer.

Posted by John Mulkey, Housing Guru (TheHousingGuru.com) about 7 years ago

Ahhh....we have a walk in 2 headed ...non flipped shower....no door...will never be....water never comes out...but....we did make it big enough for you to join us and bring your wife....economize...flip old boy...not here !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) about 7 years ago

A great example of what appears valuable to an appraisal. . it is not practical for the homeowner. . flippers know this 

Posted by Fernando Herboso - Broker for Maxus Realty Group, 301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA (Maxus Realty Group - Broker 301-246-0001) about 7 years ago

John - I would think people would notice this right away.  But who knows!  I am more worried about what I can't see!

S&D - I like a shower with room!  But not a shower with a view!

Fernando - I would wonder if an appraiser would even see this!  Once one came to the house during an inspection, hardly walked around and was gone in 90 seconds.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

I guess, this home is now suitable for small folks only!

Posted by Gabe Sanders, Stuart Florida Real Estate (Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales) about 7 years ago

Jay - I love the showers that I like to call 'party showers'! Not that I actually have a party in there but they are large enough for several people! Imagine mom taking her kids into the shower with her after the beach - easy as pie - wash them down, send them out and then take your shower! THAT is a great shower!

Posted by Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional, Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor (Charles Rutenberg Realty) about 7 years ago

Jay, how to turn a powder room into a full bath. It does look nice though.

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA about 7 years ago

Was this done as an after-thought to market the property with one more "full" bath (shower, toilet, sink?)  Nice display of how small it really is.  From the first photo, it's very hard to discern.

Posted by Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED (RETIRED / State License is Inactive) about 7 years ago

Insightful and thorough...as usual!

Posted by Karl Hess, on The Jersey Shore (Keller Williams Shore Properties) about 7 years ago

Beauty and functionality need to be present. Great post. Too common occurence, especiallt with do it yourselfers.

Posted by Dave Halpern, Louisville Short Sale Expert (Keller Williams Realty Louisville East (502) 664-7827) about 7 years ago

Or really tall, think folks Gabe!  Really thin.

Mike - classic!  Probably not unheard of, but classic.  You really need to find that photo!

Barbara-Jo - they are more useful and fun.  Your suggestion is the best one!  Not all of us are thinking beach however, like you immediately do!

Michael - well, that's how you do it!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Carla - this is the flipper's idea of remodeling the old bathroom, which was in this same spot.  His installation of a whirlpool tub took up what used to be the shower stall.  That left less room for everything else.

Thanks Karl, but I run into so much fun in flipper properties it is easy to notice!

Dave - while a pretty bathroom, not at all functional in the shower department.  The rest had its own issues - see my next post on the tub...

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Those are some snazzy sandals Jay. Are they good for climbing roofs?

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) about 7 years ago

Wow. How will they ever wash their hair without hitting the walls?

Posted by Erica Ramus, MRE, Schuylkill County PA Real Estate (Erica Ramus - Ramus Realty Group - Pottsville, PA ) about 7 years ago

OUCH!!!  Are they fixing it?

Posted by Julia Maher, Connecticut Home Stager (Nestings: Connecticut Home Staging and Model Homes) about 7 years ago

The best Jim.  My philosphy is the lighter and airier the better.

They won't Erica!  Or washing the rest of them either.

Julia - don't know!  My client had enough and bugged out.  Each room in this house had a very fun punch list!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Jay - that is funny. It might fit someone petite and under 5 ft and under 100 lbs.

Posted by Loreena and Michael Yeo, Real Estate Agents (3:16 team REALTY ~ Locally-owned Frisco TX Real Estate Co.) about 7 years ago

Even you, Miss Petite Loreena, would have a hard time in this shower!  If that is your size, you and my mother could be twins.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

I have to admit when I looked at the first photo I thought, "nice little shower." But when I saw the little fee in the shower....I guess if you don't need to turn around or lift up your arms it's not a problem. Seriously you come across some of the strangest things.

Posted by Vince Santos, Southeast Michigan Home Inspector (StepByStep Home Services LC) about 7 years ago

It's hard to see scale in photos, I know Vince, but in person this shower stall is smaller than you imagine!

I do have fun, that I admit freely!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

That's too funny! I have one that is a walk-in without a door but there is plenty of room.

Posted by Lizette Fitzpatrick, Lizette Realty,Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes - (Lizette Realty - Lexington KY - Richmond KY) about 7 years ago

Jay - I can see why they didn't want a shower door on there.  It wouldn't have helped them at all.

Posted by Christine Donovan, Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M (Donovan Blatt Realty) about 7 years ago

Jay, nothing flies past you, I love it! Good thing they didn't try to install a bathtub.. Kidding!

Posted by Anna Tolstoy (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage) about 7 years ago

Here in MN, showers are supposed to allow a 30" sphere, and have at least 900 square inches of floor area.  How about in your area?

Posted by Reuben Saltzman, Delivering the Unbiased Truth. (Structure Tech Home Inspections) about 7 years ago

Maybe they are expecting to sell to really skinny people? I often ask what people are thinking, but the answer is that they weren't.

Posted by J. Philip Faranda, Broker-Owner (J. Philip Faranda (J. Philip R.E. LLC) Westchester County NY) about 7 years ago

Jay - that's hilarious! Thank God for inspectors for pointing out what is so obvious, we often miss!

Posted by Lori Cain, Midtown Tulsa Real Estate Top Producer (eXp Realty) about 7 years ago

Wow, that is a tiny shower.  Very bad attempt to add value to a home.

Posted by Aaron Silverman, Improving Real Estate Experience through Education (SuccessfulRental.com, Bluewater Property Management, LLC and Lowcountry Turnkey Properties, LLC) about 7 years ago

Lizette - I see bathrooms without doors often and wonder why people take them off!  Sometimes they are stuck pocket doors too.

Christine - but that bathroom is not waterproof!  They need something!

They did Anna!  See my next post!  I think the big tub is why there is so little room for a shower.

No know Reubs!  Those are details that I have never gotten around to knowing.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Joe - Even Olive Oyl would have had a hard time in this shower!  And Brutus could not have fitted at all...

Lori - I really did laugh out loud.  It is smaller in person than I think my pictures can demonstrate!

Aaron - but the bathroom needed one!  And with that large tub (next post) this was all the room they could find!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

Wow!  Good layout of pictures.  I thought it looked awesome until picture 2.  Mercy! 

Posted by Mike Cooper, Your Winchester, VA Real Estate Sales Pro (Cornerstone Business Group Inc) about 7 years ago

Mercy is right Mike!  It was a very, very small shower!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 7 years ago

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen!

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