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When A Detached House Comes With Two Condos

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On the side of a house with rough-sawn, stained cedar siding, I was surprised to see two condos.  This puts me in a tough position.  Do I charge more for the inspection or just let this go?

Never before have I seen where birds have created holes in siding like this.  The means they have also, probably, bored through the underlayment (see the pine needles on the left side sticking out?) and removed enough insulation to create a nest.  A basement door is in process on the left side photo!

These were high up the wall, perhaps 25' off the ground.  What a perfect place for a warm, dry house!  What a safe place to raise the kids!

Carry me back to ole Virginny...

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

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Comment balloon 27 commentsJay Markanich • September 29 2010 05:48AM

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Jay, I do not ever recall seeing birds bore holes in vinyl siding. I have a woodpecker wearing out my western cedar though. Pellet rifle, wood pecker; wood pecker, pellet rifle. Now that you've been properly introduced...

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) over 7 years ago

Nor have I Michael. 

As to wood peckers, here people put rat traps on the siding with suet in it to handle the wood peckers when they are a big problem.  I understand they work really well!  We had a wood pecker on our house years ago that would go after the gutter right over my bed, usually very early morning!  I would pound on the wall and he would fly off.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Makes you wonder if folks ever really get out and LOOK at their homes.

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 7 years ago

Jay,

I saw this on a home a few years ago, and the birds had penetrated the sheetrock.

Turned into squatters in a 1400SF foreclosure!

Posted by Mike Jaquish, 919-880-2769 Cary, NC, Real Estate (Realty Arts) over 7 years ago

I'd charge rent and if they didn't pay evict.  Of course first I would have to find a 25 foot ladder to serve notice.  You would think the mess on the ground and or deck below would have caught the owners attention.  Birds are not known to be neat freaks when it comes to their droppings.

Posted by Cindy Jones, Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News (Integrity Real Estate Group) over 7 years ago

I would bet those holes were existing and the birds just took advantage.

I have heard that same story about woodpeckers many times. Male woodpeckers find a tree or rain gutter to pound on to attract a mate. The louder the better. Sound some what familiar?

Posted by James Quarello, Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) over 7 years ago

Now these pictures would have made a great "What is it?"  Wet as the dickens here -- hope all is well up there in Old Virginny.

Posted by Tish Lloyd, Broker - Wilmington NC and Surrounding Beaches (BlueCoast Realty Corporation) over 7 years ago

Lenn - this house was vacant and uncared for all around.  So they probably didn't do much walking around to check out the exterior.  Wait til you see what they did to the deck!

Don - and I am glad you could stop by again.

Mike - they had not gotten to the interior yet, but that may come!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Cindy - there is some staining on the siding now.  But underneath it is a muddy area surrounded by huge pine trees.  I imagine any droppings would wash off.

Jim - it could be that knots fell out of the siding, but I don't know that rough cedar had knots.  I think so.  If you are referring to the friend at my house, I wasn't interested in a mate!

Tish - we got a little rain up here, but not enough.  As to the contest, people would have said woodpecker hole?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

You guys and your vinyl siding----haven't you ever heard of the Pileated Weedwhacker?

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) over 7 years ago

That's cedar Charlie!  But no, I have not.  Is that species the red breasted or the hook beak?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

My sister has a terrible time with her EFIS pillars.  Apparently the woodpeckers just LOVE the consistency of the stuff.

Posted by Jim Allhiser, Salem, Oregon Home Inspector (Perfection Inspection, Inc.) over 7 years ago

Yeah, but Jim, did they move in?  I don't know what kind of birds these are, but the holes are only about 1" in diameter.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Hey Jay, I think I found the squatter here. He was chasing some squirrel around a tree.

 

What amazes me is the precision of the circles in the siding.  Not sure I could drill them that well.

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) over 7 years ago

It amazes me too Jack.  I have never seen this before.  Have you?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Jay - I've had problems with woodpeckers in the past; they seem to love cedar--I guess because it's soft and easy to make holes in. 

Posted by John Mulkey, Housing Guru (TheHousingGuru.com) over 7 years ago

But do they live in it John?  That is what is surprising me.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Jay, how about the woodpeckers make the holes and then someone else moves in?  Around here flickers will peck through the vent screens on bird blocking and then move into the attic.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) over 7 years ago

Don't know Charlie.  Woodpecker holes that I see are small and usually in lines.  I have never seen such a big hole before.  But somebody moved in!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

 They must not sing a lot....or you would think the choir would have been a heads...or tails up to the homeowner !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce - Short Sale (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) over 7 years ago

You are right S&D.  Those holes are outside bedrooms.  Someone might have heard them singing or babies chirping.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Jay, I had a bird do that to one of the posts that line my driveway. I let them be however as the post was preferredto the cedar siding of the house. I do keep an eye on the house as well so that I don't start an aviarian condo complex.

Posted by Ed Silva, Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally (RE/MAX Professionals, CT 203-206-0754 ) over 7 years ago

Ed - I am sure this happens in other parts of the country, but I have never seen holes such as this before!  Good idea with the post!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

I've seen them on cedar siding.  Know I've got some pictures in the archives, still looking.  Thought when I first saw them that it was holes for insulation to be blown in.  But I patched 2 holes and she called a week later and there was another.

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) over 7 years ago

Interesting.  This may be typical one day of cedar siding, Jack?  At first I thought they were knots which fell out, but I don't think so as one takes up parts of two boards.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

Mr Jay,

I would be very interested to know if Mr Croakster feels the same as you. He and I is very impressed with one another.

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham WA Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc.) over 7 years ago

Nutsy - Croakster lives in his pond, has many girlfriends and not much use for condos.  But I will ask him next time I see him.

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 7 years ago

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